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alkizmo

join:2007-06-25
Pierrefonds, QC
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reply to alkizmo

Re: EXTREME freezing temperatures - What to worry about?

Ok guys, let's get the details hammered down in this delicate operation. It's already 10:40pm so I can't spend hours at this.

Cold water started coming back a bit after I opened the door for half an hour.

How's this: I place a small space heater set to 400w (for safety so it doesn't get too hot in one spot) to keep the room at a decent temperature. In the basement, underneath that bathroom, the temperature is fine, it's not freezing cold. So it's really just the bathroom itself.



DKS
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join:2001-03-22
Owen Sound, ON
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said by alkizmo:

How's this: I place a small space heater set to 400w (for safety so it doesn't get too hot in one spot) to keep the room at a decent temperature. In the basement, underneath that bathroom, the temperature is fine, it's not freezing cold. So it's really just the bathroom itself.

I have used an electric blow drier set to high to thaw pipes, if they are accessible.
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Bob4
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join:2012-07-22
New Jersey

Get an electric pipe thawer (Google it). They run close to $1000.



alkizmo

join:2007-06-25
Pierrefonds, QC
kudos:1
reply to DKS

said by DKS:

Incredibly dangerous idea. Stoves use air to burn. Your house is fairly air tight. The stove will use up the oxygen in the air, producing carbon monoxide. Your wife will be a widow. Your children will have no father. Don't ever run a stove, propane furnace or generator indoors.

Oh I have CO detectors with a battery back up. I'd be fine. Also, the stove was made to be run indoor, but ya that stove needs to be inspected when I'm almost done with the basement.

said by DKS:

Another very dangerous idea. An unattended space heater is a fire hazard. Overheat switches don't always work. Excellent video on risks and benefits of space heaters here.

I have an oil passive space heater. Set at 400W it will only get as warm as the air coming out of my registers. Basically it's less dangerous than an electric baseboard.

said by DKS:

I have used an electric blow drier set to high to thaw pipes, if they are accessible.

The problem is that the location of the pipe where it's frozen is inside a wall (between the garage and the bathroom). So I can't thaw it with an hair dryer.

However, good news guys, everything's unblocked. Leaving the door open and letting my space heater run overnight fixed the problem.
I'll turn off the space heater but keep the door open. I finish work late today so when I come back, if it'S still okay then I won't need to use the space heater.

Bob4
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join:2012-07-22
New Jersey

Leave a trickle (steady stream) of water running while you're out today.



alkizmo

join:2007-06-25
Pierrefonds, QC
kudos:1
reply to Bob4

said by Bob4:

Get an electric pipe thawer (Google it). They run close to $1000.

Hell no

This summer I'm supposed to make a small laundry room in the back of my garage (where it shares the wall with the problematic bathroom). I'll insulate the walls at that time and the problem will be over.

itguy05

join:2005-06-17
Carlisle, PA
reply to Bob4

said by Bob4:

Get an electric pipe thawer (Google it). They run close to $1000.

Or you could get those pipe tapes that plug in and clip to the pipes. The parents have an issue with a cold water pipe in their house. It's in an addition with a crawl space and sometimes the cold water pipe would freeze. I installed one of them quite a few years ago and it's worked beautifully. It definitely was well under $1000, my guess would be $30-50.


hm

@videotron.ca

I don't know what this tape is I see people talking about, but the pipe cable will run fairly cheap.

25 to 75$ deepening on length. Not anywhere near 1000$.

»www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stor···l&s=true

Or just toss in some electric heaters, if he has them. Or run to Costco for a couple of them (heater fans) at 40$ a pop (on special this week). They heat a room very very good and very fast.


Bob4
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reply to itguy05

I'm talking about the things that look like battery chargers, with heavy cables and spring-loaded clamps on the ends. They put a large current through the pipes, generating heat and melting the ice. The advantage is that they work on pipes that are completely inaccessible, as long as you can connect the two clamps at least 20 feet(?) apart.


telco_mtl

join:2012-01-06
reply to alkizmo

please tell me you are heating the garage? in this weather if you dont heat an attached garage you will get floor heaves, cracks and the like.



Draiman
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said by telco_mtl:

please tell me you are heating the garage? in this weather if you dont heat an attached garage you will get floor heaves, cracks and the like.

How did garages survive being unheated for the last 30-50 years without any of that stuff happening?
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telco_mtl

join:2012-01-06

said by Draiman:

said by telco_mtl:

please tell me you are heating the garage? in this weather if you dont heat an attached garage you will get floor heaves, cracks and the like.

How did garages survive being unheated for the last 30-50 years without any of that stuff happening?

up here in quebec attached garages are always heated, but most people turn off the heat. In my moonlight gig i can tell you just pulling up to the house if the garage has had its heat turned off. Until you have been up north you really dont know the disasterous effects of adfreezing

itguy05

join:2005-06-17
Carlisle, PA
reply to Bob4

said by Bob4:

I'm talking about the things that look like battery chargers, with heavy cables and spring-loaded clamps on the ends. They put a large current through the pipes, generating heat and melting the ice. The advantage is that they work on pipes that are completely inaccessible, as long as you can connect the two clamps at least 20 feet(?) apart.

Interesting. Did not know such a thing existed. Sort of an induction heater for pipes...


hm

@videotron.ca

This video was made in alkizmo's area yesterday during the day. Got much colder at night when his pipes froze.

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=62Hos_ut···embedded


Later on this evening, alkizmo, is going to put his tongue on his frozen copper pipes to show us how cold it is there.

Global warming can't happen fast enough for me.


alkizmo

join:2007-06-25
Pierrefonds, QC
kudos:1
reply to telco_mtl

Well I kept the bathroom door opened while I was gone (just came back) and water is running normally.

To the guy who told me to insulate the wall&pipes: Yes I did say several times I'm doing that in the summer

said by telco_mtl:

please tell me you are heating the garage? in this weather if you dont heat an attached garage you will get floor heaves, cracks and the like.

I believe that only applies to garages at the same level as the basement.
My garage's concrete slab is at ground level.
Considering my house is 46 years old and there was no heating in the garage throughout that whole time, I doubt the floor will change.

Anyway when the basement is finished (spring), I will get around to the garage, I want a laundry room in there so I will insulate most of it.


DKS
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join:2001-03-22
Owen Sound, ON
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reply to telco_mtl

said by telco_mtl:

said by Draiman:

said by telco_mtl:

please tell me you are heating the garage? in this weather if you dont heat an attached garage you will get floor heaves, cracks and the like.

How did garages survive being unheated for the last 30-50 years without any of that stuff happening?

up here in quebec attached garages are always heated, but most people turn off the heat. In my moonlight gig i can tell you just pulling up to the house if the garage has had its heat turned off. Until you have been up north you really dont know the disasterous effects of adfreezing

Yup.
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