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Re: [Speed] Congested Comcast Peering with Akamai, Google in MidIt may be that your local router is being upgraded... in your first post Hop 3 indicated a 'te' interface.
When I just tracerouted to it now, it's showing as a 'xe' interface.
3 20 ms 10 ms 10 ms 96.120.41.137
4 12 ms 7 ms 7 ms xe-8-2-0-sur01.grandrapids.mi.michigan.comcast.net [68.86.140.185]
5 17 ms 19 ms 27 ms te-0-2-0-4-ar01.taylor.mi.michigan.comcast.net [69.139.254.29]
6 18 ms 17 ms 19 ms xe-7-3-0-sur01.wannarbor.mi.michigan.comcast.net [68.85.218.201]
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 DrDrewSo that others may surf. join:2009-01-28 SoCal kudos:9 | said by depster:It may be that your local router is being upgraded... in your first post Hop 3 indicated a 'te' interface.
When I just tracerouted to it now, it's showing as a 'xe' interface.
3 20 ms 10 ms 10 ms 96.120.41.137
4 12 ms 7 ms 7 ms xe-8-2-0-sur01.grandrapids.mi.michigan.comcast.net [68.86.140.185]
5 17 ms 19 ms 27 ms te-0-2-0-4-ar01.taylor.mi.michigan.comcast.net [69.139.254.29]
6 18 ms 17 ms 19 ms xe-7-3-0-sur01.wannarbor.mi.michigan.comcast.net [68.85.218.201]
It's a different interface of the same router. OP's being from the edge of the network inbound, yours being from the core of the network outbound. -- Two is one, one is none. If it's important, back it up... Somethimes 99.999% availability isn't even good enough. |
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 johnnn join:2007-01-25 Ypsilanti, MI | DrDrew is right. When I do tracerts *to* the edge they travel through an xe interface. |
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 EGThe wings of lovePremium join:2006-11-18 Union, NJ kudos:9 1 edit | reply to depster FWIW, just a point. As Dr.Drew stated, it's the same physical router. This data needs to also be examined when evaluating the rDNS info on hops;
te-8-2-ur02 xe-7-0-sur01
Even though the IP address is the same, the slot, port, and ring data is different.
Some examples of some meanings;
Some examples;
ge = gigabit ethernet.
te / xe= ten gigabit ethernet.
p, po, pos = Packet Over Sonet (an OC-3 or faster connection).
XE / TE = Juniper / Cisco 10GigE Interface be / ae = Cisco Bundle Ethernet / Juniper Aggregate Ethernet
he = hundred gigabit ethernet.
1-1, 1-2, 1-11, 6-1, 9-1, 2-2, etc. = slot and port.
ar01, cr01, ur01
User Ring (UR), Area Ring (AR), Core Ring (CR) routing. |
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 johnnn join:2007-01-25 Ypsilanti, MI | EG, you're the best. |
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 EGThe wings of lovePremium join:2006-11-18 Union, NJ kudos:9 | I doubt that but thanks for your kind words !  |
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| reply to EG said by EG:User Ring (UR), Area Ring (AR), Core Ring (CR) routing. The one I've never understood is "SUR." I have yet to see this interface name used outside of Comcast. Happen to know? |
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 johnnn join:2007-01-25 Ypsilanti, MI |  New interface on the |  KS route |  CA route |  Peak time comparison |
There appear to be significant changes underway. One of the routers hostnames has reappeared, and I'm on a different interface. A hop prior to Pontiac has been eliminated from the previous configuration.
There was likely some sort of maintenance window on Friday morning as evidenced by the smokeping graphs attached (this makes sense, as it corresponds with the lowest utilization period for the college town I'm in). Comparing the ICMP performance for peak windows between this week and last, there's been a significant improvement. |
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| reply to EG said by EG:ge = gigabit ethernet.
te / xe= ten gigabit ethernet.
p, po, pos = Packet Over Sonet (an OC-3 or faster connection).
XE / TE = Juniper / Cisco 10GigE Interface be / ae = Cisco Bundle Ethernet / Juniper Aggregate Ethernet
he = hundred gigabit ethernet.
1-1, 1-2, 1-11, 6-1, 9-1, 2-2, etc. = slot and port.
ar01, cr01, ur01
User Ring (UR), Area Ring (AR), Core Ring (CR) routing. holy cow man. Thanks for this information. I know it's pretty trivial for non-comcast network engineers, but it really helps add some light into where my packets go when they leave town.  |
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 | reply to whfsdude said by whfsdude:said by EG:User Ring (UR), Area Ring (AR), Core Ring (CR) routing. The one I've never understood is "SUR." I have yet to see this interface name used outside of Comcast. Happen to know? Maybe Switched User Ring? |
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 makazePremium join:2004-02-23 USA | said by depster:said by whfsdude:said by EG:User Ring (UR), Area Ring (AR), Core Ring (CR) routing. The one I've never understood is "SUR." I have yet to see this interface name used outside of Comcast. Happen to know? Maybe Switched User Ring? Nah it's a Super UR. In most areas it's a juniper with multiple AR connections for redundancy. |
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 johnnn join:2007-01-25 Ypsilanti, MI | So based on the info in this thread, the changes in throughput (things are much improved), and the routing changes I've observed, it looks like Comcast hooked my neighborhood's CMTS (and likely all of wannarbor) into a Super UR whereas before it routed through two regular 10GigE URs on its way to the AR in Pontiac. |
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