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neumannu47
Premium
join:2002-08-14
USA

Typical Customer Data Usage

Out of curiosity, I started monitoring data usage on my 30/5 service in North Carolina. For a long time, it was about 120GB. Last month it was 220GB. This month, it looks like it will be over 300GB. The increased traffic is probably due to Netflix. Traffic is measured on my Netgear router's Traffic Meter.

UVerse has a 250GB cap because they think that few customers will reach that level, which is silly.

Is there any way of knowing what the average TWC 30/5 or 50/5 customer data usage is? Has the average number increased very much in the last year?


Fleeced

join:2012-10-06
kudos:2

I don't do a lot of streaming anymore since my wife has full cable, but with me being the primary user, playing games after work, checking emails, browsing, downloading things and occasionally streaming, I barely hit 60GB.

You could possibly pulling that much, it's feasible by watching about 2-3 hours of shows/movies a night or more would throw you over that. But it doesn't matter (ATM) with TWC as they don't have caps.


ke4pym
Premium
join:2004-07-24
Charlotte, NC
reply to neumannu47

I wouldn't worry too much about it.

As Fleeced noted, TWC doesn't have caps. And they've said no caps on Wideband services.



neumannu47
Premium
join:2002-08-14
USA

I'm not worried about it. I'm curious.


Fleeced

join:2012-10-06
kudos:2
reply to neumannu47

If you averaged everyone that uses the internet, I wouldn't be surprised if the "average" user barely does 10GB a month. You have huge skews in both directions (Never use it and people who constantly torrent), but for such a vague term as "average user" I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't 5-10 GB a month, if not less.


BJR

join:2012-10-04
Dallas, TX
reply to neumannu47

average usage might be tough to calculate without filters like age group and such. you have your gamers, movie watcher, youtubers, download junkies, house holds with multiple devices.

I am not a bit torrent user but I still average 500GB+ per month and that is due to having a large house hold with multiple devices and people doing various things like gaming, watching youtubes, pandora, updating said games and downloading games when steam has crazy sales, web surfing, various updates to computers; software; devices, etc.

I don't think I could survive on 250GB per month and let alone 10GB. probably why i don't own a smart phone. those dinky data plans just beg the customer to go over.


alexintexas

join:2003-01-11
San Antonio, TX
Reviews:
·Time Warner Cable
reply to neumannu47

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my usage, 2 streaming netflix, online gaming, youtube, twc tv, music, etc. total of 4 pc's, 2 tablets, 3 cells, tv, ps3

txfeinbergs

join:2009-03-10
Allen, TX

said by alexintexas:

my usage, 2 streaming netflix, online gaming, youtube, twc tv, music, etc. total of 4 pc's, 2 tablets, 3 cells, tv, ps3

I am glad you aren't on my block with that usage.

ernliz

join:2001-11-25
Albemarle, NC
reply to alexintexas

Yeah, right. I wouldn't be soooo proud of that usage. As the other person wrote, I'm glad I'm not living on your block, but eventually ALL of us are paying for your incredible usage. No wonder the bills are getting higher and higher.......



Trebonious
Premium
join:2001-06-29
Dallas, TX
Reviews:
·Time Warner Cable

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reply to neumannu47

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Typical usage: Lots of gaming, youtube streaming / smart tv youtube streaming (albeit lately it's been absolutely horrible trying to watch anything on youtube... buffer buffer buffer), netflix & Hulu, skype, & steam downloads.

4 PC's, 2 laptops, Smart TV, & tablet.

said by Fleeced:

If you averaged everyone that uses the internet, I wouldn't be surprised if the "average" user barely does 10GB a month. You have huge skews in both directions (Never use it and people who constantly torrent), but for such a vague term as "average user" I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't 5-10 GB a month, if not less.

My average is roughly 2GB per day on this PC alone. That's simply youtube, gaming, skype, etc. Not including any updates on steam, other games, or the rest of the house hold.

dcn66100

join:2012-08-07
reply to neumannu47

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This is my usage.


motorola870

join:2008-12-07
Arlington, TX
kudos:3

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average about 30GB a month in downloads/uploads which I don't upload a lot of stuff other than college work and the usual upload traffic for requesting data.

use:
youtube 240p videos (really don't care for the HD as I watch some user channels and listen to music videos and music lyric videos)
facebook/facebook games
regular web browsing
sometimes will use the TWCTV app

overall the service is great have extreme 30/5 constantly get 31 down 5.10~ (greater than 5Mbps) up

beats att in my area which I can get the 24Mbps package from them without bonding pair as I live about 500 feet from the fiber-node VRAD which if you include the loop would be in the range for 24Mbps.


NormanS
I gave her time to steal my mind away
Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
kudos:11
Reviews:
·SONIC.NET
·Pacific Bell - SBC
reply to ernliz

said by ernliz:

Yeah, right. I wouldn't be soooo proud of that usage. As the other person wrote, I'm glad I'm not living on your block, but eventually ALL of us are paying for your incredible usage. No wonder the bills are getting higher and higher.......

Why is Internet sold in speed tiers? My ISP's CEO says it costs his company the same to deliver 3.0 Mbps as to deliver 20 Mbps; hence why all of his customers pay the same rate despite the variations in speed.
--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

alexintexas

join:2003-01-11
San Antonio, TX
reply to ernliz

and im glad you dont live on mine, give me a break!

now what would my monthly usage be if used my "paid" 30Mb connection 24/7?


alexintexas

join:2003-01-11
San Antonio, TX
reply to NormanS

right and according to TWC usage tracker im over paying $30+ a month more then i need to.

a 3Mb connection is more then sufficient for my usage according to TWC graphs



trparky
Apple... YUM
Premium,MVM
join:2000-05-24
Cleveland, OH
kudos:2

According to my Linksys router running TomatoUSB, these are my bandwidth utilization numbers...

Jan 2013: 185.04 GB
Dec 2012: 160.09 GB
Nov 2012: 509.98 GB
Oct 2012: 183.08 GB
Sep 2012: 232.55 GB
Aug 2012: 168.81 GB
Jul 2012: 176.35 GB
Jun 2012: 364.15 GB
May 2012: 258.63 GB
Apr 2012: 237.61 GB
Mar 2012: 149.53 GB
Feb 2012: 228.46 GB
Jan 2012: 342.28 GB
Dec 2011: 590.00 GB
Nov 2011: 191.23 GB
Oct 2011: 122.13 GB
Sep 2011: 103.94 GB
Aug 2011: 117.19 GB
Jul 2011: 143.52 GB
--
Tom
Boycott AT&T uVerse! | Tom's Android Blog | AOKP (The Android Open Kang Project)



kilrathi
Premium
join:2005-04-22
Rockaway Park, NY
reply to neumannu47

I am hitting about 300-350gb a month and I dont even use net until 8pm-4am lately due to sandy aftermath work I have every day. Oh and no I don't torrent since 2005 at all. However, as I said before for $100 a month just for internet I consider 350GB usage a month quite acceptable if not low.


Fleeced

join:2012-10-06
kudos:2
reply to neumannu47

Just remember, you're not paying for how much internet you get in total, you're paying for how fast your internet comes into your computer at one time. So while you can possibly pull 600GB/m with standard, you won't get it as fast as you would with Ultimate.


alexintexas

join:2003-01-11
San Antonio, TX
Reviews:
·Time Warner Cable

said by Fleeced:

Just remember, you're not paying for how much internet you get in total, you're paying for how fast your internet comes

This is the selling point of every isp to over sell a product no one will come close to utilizing

said by Fleeced:

So while you can possibly pull 600GB/m with standard, you won't get it as fast as you would with Ultimate.

the total on standard "15Mbps" is 4860Gb you could never achieve more then this in any given month.

So what is the need for even a 10Mbps line other then torrenting or to download a file a few seconds faster

Fleeced

join:2012-10-06
kudos:2
reply to neumannu47

You're talking about something different than I am. I don't care how much you download, I'm talking how fast can I download that game or expansion pack versus standard. It would take me twice as long on standard as it would on my extreme (minimum, assuming perfect connections no overhead losses.)

The people who do a lot of downloading/uploading are just using more of their connection for longer periods than I am. Doesn't mean I don't want or "Need" my faster connection any less than they do.

I've never seen an ISP try to sell how much you can download, unless it was in the form of a cap. They always sell how fast you can download. Big difference.



antdude
A Ninja Ant
Premium,VIP
join:2001-03-25
United State
kudos:4
reply to neumannu47

77 GB as of this morning for me. Lower than last month's.


alexintexas

join:2003-01-11
San Antonio, TX
Reviews:
·Time Warner Cable
reply to Fleeced

said by Fleeced:

You're talking about something different than I am. I don't care how much you download, I'm talking how fast can I download that game or expansion

this is the mentality all isp's try to sell SPEED. people fail to see actual data usage.

what game sites allow you to utilize your full 50Mb connection??
for that matter how many sites period allow it

said by Fleeced:

The people who do a lot of downloading/uploading are just using more of their connection for longer periods than I am.

the avg/most internet users use netflix, youtube, ps3, xbox, online gaming which NONE of these sites/services utilize no more then 3Mbps. these same sites would never go above/allow 5mbps let alone 50mbps

MURICA

join:2013-01-03

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reply to neumannu47

How do you guys get the usage tracker to work?

Mine has always said this:




said by alexintexas:

said by Fleeced:

You're talking about something different than I am. I don't care how much you download, I'm talking how fast can I download that game or expansion

this is the mentality all isp's try to sell SPEED. people fail to see actual data usage.

what game sites allow you to utilize your full 50Mb connection??
for that matter how many sites period allow it

said by Fleeced:

The people who do a lot of downloading/uploading are just using more of their connection for longer periods than I am.

the avg/most internet users use netflix, youtube, ps3, xbox, online gaming which NONE of these sites/services utilize no more then 3Mbps. these same sites would never go above/allow 5mbps let alone 50mbps

You just don't know how to use a connection. Adult sites can help fill a connection legally. A sub to Brazzers for example and you can use over 400 GB a month if you d/l all the 1080p scenes they release in that month. Manwin outputs a ton of content, and as they use 1080p MPEG-4 @ 12 Mbps as the standard for their HD scenes each scene is typically around 4 GB in size...

The big XXX networks all output >150 GB of new content each month.

Steam's got some mighty big games on their service. If you ever have a HDD crash and need to reinstall all your games from the cloud that number can get into the TB's.

It's not true that Netflix never goes above 3 Mbps. Netflix's new HD streams are now 7 Mbps. 1080p videos on YouTube average 5 Mbps, as do 1080p downloads from iTunes. And 4K videos on YouTube are encoded to 20 Mbps.

alexintexas

join:2003-01-11
San Antonio, TX
Reviews:
·Time Warner Cable

said by MURICA:

The big XXX networks all output >150 GB of new content each month.

this is not typical user action no not watching porn,,,watching 150gb of it much less in 1080p

said by MURICA:

It's not true that Netflix never goes above 3 Mbps. Netflix's new HD streams are now 7 Mbps

Requirements

Netflix Super HD is included for free with your Netflix membership.
Netflix Super HD requires an internet connection with at least 5Mb/s download. Not all devices can play Super HD. Super HD is only available via Internet Providers that are part of the Open Connect network.
Click here to see the full list of supported devices.

so like me you also can not stream this, which is also 100's of millions of internet subscribers.

said by MURICA:

1080p videos on YouTube average 5 Mbps, as do 1080p downloads from itunes

they do not simply put after compression its not even that,,,sorry.
itunes??? can you max your d/l speed from itunes? i dont know i dont use it. now as for 4k video that is completly irrelavent. no consumer tv's that one could afford and to stream true 4k content you would need fiber period..


NormanS
I gave her time to steal my mind away
Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
kudos:11
Reviews:
·SONIC.NET
·Pacific Bell - SBC
reply to MURICA

WRT Netflix Super HD, is TWC part of their "Open Connect" network? Your ISP needs to participate in "Open Connect" and you need compatible hardware.

My ISP is a participant:

Sonic.net 15M ADSL2+ connection

... but I lack compatible hardware.
--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

Fleeced

join:2012-10-06
kudos:2
reply to alexintexas

said by alexintexas:

this is the mentality all isp's try to sell SPEED. people fail to see actual data usage.

TWC doesn't have caps. What does data matter in this situation> The only time actual data usage matters is with ISPs with data caps like mobile phones.

what game sites allow you to utilize your full 50Mb connection??
for that matter how many sites period allow it

the avg/most internet users use netflix, youtube, ps3, xbox, online gaming which NONE of these sites/services utilize no more then 3Mbps. these same sites would never go above/allow 5mbps let alone 50mbps

What about a household that has someone watching a movie on netflix, someone uploading and downloading files for work, one console gaming, another kid streaming her favorite TV show and the other kid hiding downloading porn trying not to get caught.

Or the house near the college that has 4 guys all trying to torrent/stream/game at the same time. Speed doesn't matter then?
Expand your moderator at work


SHoTTa35

@munival.com
reply to alexintexas

Re: Typical Customer Data Usage

Steam will use a full 150Mbps FiOS connection to download demos and purchased games or updates no problemo.

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIBx0PoSqSg


When I go there and select 1080p, YouTube sends the data to my cache at 50Mbps which fills it then plays it locally.

Online gaming doesn't use that much data (256Kbps or so which is nothing), downloading updates however or new maps does. Last maps pack I downloaded was 2.6GB

alexintexas

join:2003-01-11
San Antonio, TX
Reviews:
·Time Warner Cable
reply to Fleeced

said by Fleeced:

What about a household that has someone watching a movie on netflix, someone uploading and downloading files for work, one console gaming, another kid streaming her favorite TV show and the other kid hiding downloading porn trying not to get caught.

even if this is the case a 15mb line is overkill for all above usage
not just in speed but in total monthly avail data one could download in a month. you yourself state you only d/l 60gb a month.
so for an occasional game d/l or patch you overpay $60+ a month for speed you dont really utilize,,,,facts are facts,,,sorry

on a 50Mb line you could d/l upto 16tb in a month so you avg less then 200kbps on a 50mbps line. think about that

said by Fleeced:

Or the house near the college that has 4 guys all trying to torrent/stream/game at the same time. Speed doesn't matter then?

torrents id allow if legal and set QOS as you well know without this torrents will saturate a line


sivran
Opera ex-pat
Premium
join:2003-09-15
Irving, TX
kudos:1

Do you just not realize how pointless your argument is?