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resa1983Premium
join:2008-03-10
North York, ON
kudos:7 | Yup. Expect a post from Karl about this soon. 
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mlord
join:2006-11-05
Nepean, ON
kudos:9 | reply to londoner1
Mmm.. +$30/month for unlimited transfers. Expensive. |
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I still don't trust the buggers.
"Subject to change at any time" leaves them an out in 6 months. |
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 HiVoltPremium
join:2000-12-28
Toronto, ON
kudos:17 | reply to londoner1
CNOC should immediately file to strike all CBB rate charges...
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 ·TekSavvy DSL
| said by HiVolt:CNOC should immediately file to strike all CBB rate charges...
Absolutely. This negates all of their CBB rates for wholesale.
TSI Marc: Is CNOC going to take this to the CRTC? |
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 mlernerPremium
join:2000-11-25
Nepean, ON
kudos:5 | reply to camelot
said by camelot:I still don't trust the buggers.
"Subject to change at any time" leaves them an out in 6 months.
It'll likely be there for 6 months and then if any changes occur on your account, they'll be like 'oops you don't have that anymore' and 'we can't get it back for you'. |
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the most expensive internet access in the `developed world` just got better. you can pay even more, for a service that used to cost half as much just a few years ago.
the same incompetent technical support and the never ending price increases. canada. |
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mlernerPremium
join:2000-11-25
Nepean, ON
kudos:5 | reply to camelot
said by camelot:said by HiVolt:CNOC should immediately file to strike all CBB rate charges...
Absolutely. This negates all of their CBB rates for wholesale. Not necessarily, the wholesale costing is recognized as separate than retail pricing. The only thing that is required is that all retail plans have to be offered on wholesale terms which may or may not include unlimited usage addons. |
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 GuspazGuspazPremium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
kudos:20 | reply to londoner1
Citing the $30/mth for unlimited won't get CNOC anywhere. TekSavvy has a max of $25/mth for unlimited, on top of lower prices to boot.
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HiVoltPremium
join:2000-12-28
Toronto, ON
kudos:17 Reviews:
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said by mlerner:Not necessarily, the wholesale costing is recognized as separate than retail pricing. The only thing that is required is that all retail plans have to be offered on wholesale terms which may or may not include unlimited usage addons.
But Bell fought for all this time against unlimited usage for wholesale, and simply do an about face, and the wholesale is stuck with all these overpriced capacity charges, while Bell just dances around it now?
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·TekSavvy DSL
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said by Guspaz:Citing the $30/mth for unlimited won't get CNOC anywhere. TekSavvy has a max of $25/mth for unlimited, on top of lower prices to boot.
No, but the $10 in a bundle will. What does a "bundle" have to do with the capacity rates they claim are expensive. How does bundling with other services somehow lower capacity rates for them? |
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This is how it works.
Bell overcharges wholesale indies to subsidize its own retail rebates and bundles and promotions, then overcharges its own retail once promotion ends or contract ends or changes.
The alternative is that Bell charges wholesale indies based on genuine costs, but then has to drop its own retail prices to compete with indies who get ridiculously cheap wholesale capacity and access.
Which is the most likely to be true?
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mlernerPremium
join:2000-11-25
Nepean, ON
kudos:5 | reply to HiVolt
said by HiVolt:said by mlerner:Not necessarily, the wholesale costing is recognized as separate than retail pricing. The only thing that is required is that all retail plans have to be offered on wholesale terms which may or may not include unlimited usage addons.
But Bell fought for all this time against unlimited usage for wholesale, and simply do an about face, and the wholesale is stuck with all these overpriced capacity charges, while Bell just dances around it now? Yup, that's the way it's always worked under previous CRTC management. The CRTC might re-work wholesale costing altogether but Bell is free to offer anything to their own clients. That's the single biggest reason wholesale is a mess and Bell still reaps all the profit. |
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GuspazGuspazPremium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
kudos:20 | reply to camelot
said by camelot:No, but the $10 in a bundle will. What does a "bundle" have to do with the capacity rates they claim are expensive. How does bundling with other services somehow lower capacity rates for them? Have you actually looked at Bell's prices? Compare Bell unlimited with $10 for that and TekSavvy unlimited (using QC pricing):
TekSavvy: $77.99/mth
Bell: $71.95/mth + $10/mth unlimited = $81.95/mth
TekSavvy is still cheaper. Even with the $4/mth bundle discount, Bell is only matching TSI's price.
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HiVoltPremium
join:2000-12-28
Toronto, ON
kudos:17 Reviews:
·TekSavvy Cable
·TekSavvy DSL
| said by Guspaz:Have you actually looked at Bell's prices? Compare Bell unlimited with $10 for that and TekSavvy unlimited (using QC pricing):
TekSavvy: $77.99/mth
Bell: $71.95/mth + $10/mth unlimited = $81.95/mth
TekSavvy is still cheaper. Even with the $4/mth bundle discount, Bell is only matching TSI's price.
Except TekSavvy can't provide reliable 25mbps connection in peak hours, but Bell can.
And if you need a dryloop, there's another way wholesale gets screwed.
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| said by HiVolt:And if you need a dryloop, there's another way wholesale gets screwed. If you need dry loop then you only have one Bell service and aren't eligible for the $20+ worth of discounts that were required to match TSI's price, so TSI should still be cheaper for dry even if Bell does not charge for it. |
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I'm not questioning final pricing; I'm questioning their conflicting arguments behind it.
It seems they are able to justify higher per-GB charges for wholesale, but the same costing reasons don't apply for their own customers. |
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bt
join:2009-02-26
canada
kudos:1 Reviews:
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said by InvalidError:said by HiVolt:And if you need a dryloop, there's another way wholesale gets screwed. If you need dry loop then you only have one Bell service Internet/TV/Mobility |
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Dufus
join:2010-10-20
Scarborough, ON | reply to HiVolt
said by HiVolt:said by Guspaz:Have you actually looked at Bell's prices? Compare Bell unlimited with $10 for that and TekSavvy unlimited (using QC pricing):
TekSavvy: $77.99/mth
Bell: $71.95/mth + $10/mth unlimited = $81.95/mth
TekSavvy is still cheaper. Even with the $4/mth bundle discount, Bell is only matching TSI's price.
Except TekSavvy can't provide reliable 25mbps connection in peak hours, but Bell can. And if you need a dryloop, there's another way wholesale gets screwed. Don't forget about the modem rental! |
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