 GuspazGuspazPremium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
kudos:20 | reply to camelot
Re: Bell Unlimited Promotion said by camelot:No, but the $10 in a bundle will. What does a "bundle" have to do with the capacity rates they claim are expensive. How does bundling with other services somehow lower capacity rates for them? Have you actually looked at Bell's prices? Compare Bell unlimited with $10 for that and TekSavvy unlimited (using QC pricing):
TekSavvy: $77.99/mth
Bell: $71.95/mth + $10/mth unlimited = $81.95/mth
TekSavvy is still cheaper. Even with the $4/mth bundle discount, Bell is only matching TSI's price.
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 HiVoltPremium
join:2000-12-28
Toronto, ON
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| said by Guspaz:Have you actually looked at Bell's prices? Compare Bell unlimited with $10 for that and TekSavvy unlimited (using QC pricing):
TekSavvy: $77.99/mth
Bell: $71.95/mth + $10/mth unlimited = $81.95/mth
TekSavvy is still cheaper. Even with the $4/mth bundle discount, Bell is only matching TSI's price.
Except TekSavvy can't provide reliable 25mbps connection in peak hours, but Bell can.
And if you need a dryloop, there's another way wholesale gets screwed.
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| said by HiVolt:And if you need a dryloop, there's another way wholesale gets screwed. If you need dry loop then you only have one Bell service and aren't eligible for the $20+ worth of discounts that were required to match TSI's price, so TSI should still be cheaper for dry even if Bell does not charge for it. |
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I'm not questioning final pricing; I'm questioning their conflicting arguments behind it.
It seems they are able to justify higher per-GB charges for wholesale, but the same costing reasons don't apply for their own customers. |
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bt
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said by InvalidError:said by HiVolt:And if you need a dryloop, there's another way wholesale gets screwed. If you need dry loop then you only have one Bell service Internet/TV/Mobility |
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Same hold true for 25/10 in cities such as Ottawa. Bell can't provide true 25/10 in most areas of Ottawa. |
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Dufus
join:2010-10-20
Scarborough, ON | reply to HiVolt
said by HiVolt:said by Guspaz:Have you actually looked at Bell's prices? Compare Bell unlimited with $10 for that and TekSavvy unlimited (using QC pricing):
TekSavvy: $77.99/mth
Bell: $71.95/mth + $10/mth unlimited = $81.95/mth
TekSavvy is still cheaper. Even with the $4/mth bundle discount, Bell is only matching TSI's price.
Except TekSavvy can't provide reliable 25mbps connection in peak hours, but Bell can. And if you need a dryloop, there's another way wholesale gets screwed. Don't forget about the modem rental! |
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DavesnothereNo-BHELL-ity DOES have its Advantages
join:2009-06-15
START&Cogeco
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said by InvalidError:said by HiVolt:And if you need a dryloop, there's another way wholesale gets screwed. If you need dry loop then you only have one Bell service and aren't eligible for the $20+ worth of discounts that were required to match TSI's price, so TSI should still be cheaper for dry even if Bell does not charge for it.
Good catch, IE !
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DavesnothereNo-BHELL-ity DOES have its Advantages
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said by ChuckcZar :Same holds true for 25/10 in cities such as Ottawa.
Bell can't provide true 25/10 in most areas of Ottawa.
Heck, BH#$ELL cannot even do 15/1 in Brockville, a city of 30K-ish (try 6M/800K if lucky), and not much better in the larger city of Kingston.
GOUGEco cable BLOWS Bell away in THOSE places ! |
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bt
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said by Davesnothere:said by InvalidError:said by HiVolt:And if you need a dryloop, there's another way wholesale gets screwed. If you need dry loop then you only have one Bell service and aren't eligible for the $20+ worth of discounts that were required to match TSI's price, so TSI should still be cheaper for dry even if Bell does not charge for it. Good catch, IE ! ...except he's wrong. |
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| said by bt:...except he's wrong.
How many people on wholesale DSL will choose Bell for mobile and sign up for FibeTV? The impression I get from being around here for a few years tells me not many.
Sure, that isn't exactly zero but it is close enough in my book. |
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HiVoltPremium
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| said by InvalidError:How many people on wholesale DSL will choose Bell for mobile and sign up for FibeTV? The impression I get from being around here for a few years tells me not many.
Sure, that isn't exactly zero but it is close enough in my book.
You can't get FibeTV standalone without internet... at least not officially, as there have been some posts in the past about some being able to get a discounted price without Internet.
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| said by HiVolt:You can't get FibeTV standalone without internet... at least not officially, as there have been some posts in the past about some being able to get a discounted price without Internet. That option (that sales reps will try to avoid talking about) is called the "0GB plan", just need to wipe the Internet login to avoid accidental usage. |
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 TSI AndreGot TekSavvy?Premium,VIP
join:2008-06-03
Chatham, ON
kudos:8 | We are building a pricing comparison right now. I will post it in a couple of minutes.
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 corsterPremium
join:2002-02-23
Gatineau, QC
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said by HiVolt:said by InvalidError:How many people on wholesale DSL will choose Bell for mobile and sign up for FibeTV? The impression I get from being around here for a few years tells me not many.
Sure, that isn't exactly zero but it is close enough in my book.
You can't get FibeTV standalone without internet... at least not officially, as there have been some posts in the past about some being able to get a discounted price without Internet. You're all forgetting that Bell also offers satellite (ExpressVu) - no internet required for that, and I know many people that subscribe to it without any other Bell services. |
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Here is the comparison graph Andre said we would be posting. |
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| I really don't understand how bell can get away with such advertising..
3 bundle services to get such an advertised rate..
Its like they are forcing their services on you if you are their customer just to get the 10 dollar rate.
so sneaky their advertising.
and all these companies with their bundling bs is so stupid. |
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GuspazGuspazPremium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
kudos:20 | reply to TSI Jonathan
said by TSI Jonathan:Here is the comparison graph Andre said we would be posting. Your calculations are incorrect in that the bundled pricing doesn't take the bundle discount into account, and those are specifically the Ontario pricing, since the price is different (much higher) in Quebec.
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HiVoltPremium
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kudos:17 | And is the forced modem rental included?
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