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[OOL] is punishing encrypted YouTube straems at prime time?

I have boost and for the most part I get what I pay for.

You Tube is useless as it currently is. Best I can hope for is 360p unless I want to revisit Real Player from 1999. My daughter is constantly complaining about buffering of her ipad -(she says youtube is broken!)

OOL app works perfectly, Netflix also.

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It's irrelevant "why" I want https. It is my decision.
Obviously you don't understand all the implications of HTTPS so perhaps you shouldn't chime in.
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While anything is possible, I think it is less likely that OOL is doing anything to the traffic and more likely that you are using different servers for the VPN and OOL connection. Encryption is very CPU intensive and if the youtube server that you use via OOL is at all busy the first thing that will suffer is encrypted video.
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Yet the logic that OOL is doing it for only SSL to youtube and only during prime time is even more extreme. All OOL cares about is bandwidth used. Encrypted youtube does not use a significant amount of additional bandwidth.
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Or maybe their snooping devices can't keep up at peak time..They are fruitlessly trying to analyze/decrypt it and this is how fast they can go when overloaded.
Are you saying CV doesn't use these?

Yet, I'm asking if anybody else noticed this pattern...
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If they are using deep packet inspection, and for arguments sake I certainly will assume they are using it.

1. They almost certainly would not be trying to decrypt packets since it would be a criminal offense.

2. If encrypted packets slowed the deep packet inspection, it would slow your VPN just as much as it would slow your SSL. connection since the real difference between the 2 is the port number. Which is simply a number in the packet.

3. Packet Analysis is CPU intensive for every packet, so if you start to see traffic of one type slowed you are likely to see all traffic slowed, also in packet analysis from something like YouTube you likely would only really get new info from the first packet of each video. Sending Videos from YouTube is not CPU intensive but encrypting Videos is CPU intensive. If the CPU becomes loaded it should not have much of an effect on other traffic, mainly it would effect encrypted traffic.

Again much more likely that the place where there is a real difference in load, ie Encrypting the packet, is the bottle neck.
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Chances are Youtube is just choking on itself. I have problems loading HD videos non-encrypted and FORGET about using it on a mobile device, it's just an awful experience. Even the Tivo has issues with buffering HD videos.

Netflix has a server on Cablevisions network now for caching but even before they had that it was still much better than Youtube.

Youtube has issues they need to fix.

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Google has two pops in my data center. One for Google and one for Youtube. We are in Manhattan. I hope that those two servers are not feeding all of NYC. So therefor I would assume Google has multiple POPs in NYC.

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I don't think there's anything criminal about that. We are using THEIR network. For all we know, they have some nation security letter that gives them permission to do that.
So keep that +1 in your pants.
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There is or has been threads about youtube issues in about all of the ISP forums here with the same issue over the past couple of years. It is nothing new unfortunately.
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An encrypted data stream is a electronic communication not readily accessible to general public. The wiretapping law makes it illegal to attempt to decrypt it, without a warrant.
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Yes, but unfortunately, national security letter can override that.
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