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Fleeced

join:2012-10-06
kudos:2
reply to neumannu47

Re: Typical Customer Data Usage

You're talking about something different than I am. I don't care how much you download, I'm talking how fast can I download that game or expansion pack versus standard. It would take me twice as long on standard as it would on my extreme (minimum, assuming perfect connections no overhead losses.)

The people who do a lot of downloading/uploading are just using more of their connection for longer periods than I am. Doesn't mean I don't want or "Need" my faster connection any less than they do.

I've never seen an ISP try to sell how much you can download, unless it was in the form of a cap. They always sell how fast you can download. Big difference.


alexintexas

join:2003-01-11
San Antonio, TX
Reviews:
·Time Warner Cable

said by Fleeced:

You're talking about something different than I am. I don't care how much you download, I'm talking how fast can I download that game or expansion

this is the mentality all isp's try to sell SPEED. people fail to see actual data usage.

what game sites allow you to utilize your full 50Mb connection??
for that matter how many sites period allow it

said by Fleeced:

The people who do a lot of downloading/uploading are just using more of their connection for longer periods than I am.

the avg/most internet users use netflix, youtube, ps3, xbox, online gaming which NONE of these sites/services utilize no more then 3Mbps. these same sites would never go above/allow 5mbps let alone 50mbps


SHoTTa35

@munival.com

Steam will use a full 150Mbps FiOS connection to download demos and purchased games or updates no problemo.

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIBx0PoSqSg


When I go there and select 1080p, YouTube sends the data to my cache at 50Mbps which fills it then plays it locally.

Online gaming doesn't use that much data (256Kbps or so which is nothing), downloading updates however or new maps does. Last maps pack I downloaded was 2.6GB

Fleeced

join:2012-10-06
kudos:2
reply to alexintexas

said by alexintexas:

this is the mentality all isp's try to sell SPEED. people fail to see actual data usage.

TWC doesn't have caps. What does data matter in this situation> The only time actual data usage matters is with ISPs with data caps like mobile phones.

what game sites allow you to utilize your full 50Mb connection??
for that matter how many sites period allow it

the avg/most internet users use netflix, youtube, ps3, xbox, online gaming which NONE of these sites/services utilize no more then 3Mbps. these same sites would never go above/allow 5mbps let alone 50mbps

What about a household that has someone watching a movie on netflix, someone uploading and downloading files for work, one console gaming, another kid streaming her favorite TV show and the other kid hiding downloading porn trying not to get caught.

Or the house near the college that has 4 guys all trying to torrent/stream/game at the same time. Speed doesn't matter then?
Expand your moderator at work

alexintexas

join:2003-01-11
San Antonio, TX
Reviews:
·Time Warner Cable
reply to Fleeced

Re: Typical Customer Data Usage

said by Fleeced:

What about a household that has someone watching a movie on netflix, someone uploading and downloading files for work, one console gaming, another kid streaming her favorite TV show and the other kid hiding downloading porn trying not to get caught.

even if this is the case a 15mb line is overkill for all above usage
not just in speed but in total monthly avail data one could download in a month. you yourself state you only d/l 60gb a month.
so for an occasional game d/l or patch you overpay $60+ a month for speed you dont really utilize,,,,facts are facts,,,sorry

on a 50Mb line you could d/l upto 16tb in a month so you avg less then 200kbps on a 50mbps line. think about that

said by Fleeced:

Or the house near the college that has 4 guys all trying to torrent/stream/game at the same time. Speed doesn't matter then?

torrents id allow if legal and set QOS as you well know without this torrents will saturate a line


sivran
Seamonkey's back
Premium
join:2003-09-15
Irving, TX
kudos:1

Do you just not realize how pointless your argument is?



NormanS
I gave her time to steal my mind away
Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
kudos:11
Reviews:
·SONIC.NET
·Pacific Bell - SBC
reply to alexintexas

said by alexintexas:

even if this is the case a 15mb line is overkill for all above usage

My ISP charges my mother the same price for 5 Mbps Internet at her residence as they charge me for 15 Mbps at mine; less the stupid $6.50 modem rental fee they started collecting last year. No tiers, just a limit due to DSL and wireline distance.
--
Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum


hobgoblin
Sortof Agoblin
Premium
join:2001-11-25
Orchard Park, NY
kudos:11

1 recommendation

reply to sivran

said by sivran:

Do you just not realize how pointless your argument is?

Here is an analogy.

I used to own a Sebring, I drove 20 miles to work every day. It took me 20 minutes.
I now own a Chevrolet Camaro. its still 20 miles to work, but the car is faster so it takes me 15 minutes.
I dont drive 25 miles for fun I save 5 minutes each trip.

Hop
--
"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds."
- Ralph Waldo Emerson

alexintexas

join:2003-01-11
San Antonio, TX
Reviews:
·Time Warner Cable
reply to NormanS

Sadly this is the tech for DSL, however.....

if you are speaking of sonic.net

Fusion delivers our fastest residential broadband at up to 20Mbps and traditional home phone service with unlimited nationwide calling all for a single low price $39.95+$6.95 modem fee. and is not an intro rate according to the site.

home phone on TWC alone = $39.95 a month
15Mb line is $54 a month + modem
3Mb line is $39.95 + modem a month if not mistaken

so i would take a 5Mb line and home phone at that rate

the same level of phone service on ATT or verizon = $70+ a month.


MURICA

join:2013-01-03
reply to hobgoblin

said by hobgoblin:

said by sivran:

Do you just not realize how pointless your argument is?

Here is an analogy.

I used to own a Sebring, I drove 20 miles to work every day. It took me 20 minutes.
I now own a Chevrolet Camaro. its still 20 miles to work, but the car is faster so it takes me 15 minutes.
I dont drive 25 miles for fun I save 5 minutes each trip.

Hop

That is a terrible analogy. Do you live in Germany and commute on the Autobahn or something?

Even the shittiest of cars can easily exceed American highway speed limits by 10+ mph.


sivran
Seamonkey's back
Premium
join:2003-09-15
Irving, TX
kudos:1

1 recommendation

I got a better twist on it.

I take a toll road to get to work and back. It's getting me to the same place, just faster and more expensive. I pay the extra to save 20-40 minutes a day. I consider this worth it. Someone else might not. Fine by me, but if they tell me I'm wasting my money, I'll tell them they're wasting their time.
--
Think Outside the Fox.



hobgoblin
Sortof Agoblin
Premium
join:2001-11-25
Orchard Park, NY
kudos:11

1 recommendation

"I take a toll road to get to work and back. It's getting me to the same place, just faster and more expensive. I pay the extra to save 20-40 minutes a day. I consider this worth it. Someone else might not. Fine by me, but if they tell me I'm wasting my money, I'll tell them they're wasting their time."

Thats a nice analogy!

Hob
--
"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds."
- Ralph Waldo Emerson


bn1221

join:2009-04-29
Cortland, NY
reply to alexintexas

Netflix allows 7mbit per stream if they have a local content box with the ISP. I can see kids on on TV and parents on the other.