 signmeuptooThank you YankeesPremium join:2001-11-22 NanoParticle kudos:4 Reviews:
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| Laptop, who here has knowledge and experience? I am still awaiting my tax refund. I expect to spend between 500 and 650 on a laptop, preferably less than 550. I see a number of deals on sites like newegg, but many models have no review or the reviews are bad. I'm worried I will do something bone headed and end up with a lemon.
IIRC, some people here didn't like Acer laptops, is that still true?
What about Lenovo these days?
I am thinking a Dell or Asus are best choice. I hope to buy new so I can get a full warranty.
I need decent battery life as I will use it for schooling (computer science, either app dev or IT, or both).
How are i3 based units? Are they slow? Do I need to stick to an i5?
Also, build quality, some are flimsy, I want to avoid that.
I am open to getting an ultrabook and buying a stand alone optical drive.
I want a +/- 15" monitor (14 or 15.5 is fine, and I am open to smaller, too, for the right deal).
Newegg has a number of under 600 dollar laptops, but most lack reviews and/or have poor reviews. How do I protect myself from a bad unit?
I think I want Win8, even though I don't like Metro, because the system may have to serve me well for 2 to 4 years, or more.
Looking here:
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The 500 to 600 dollar models, what do you favor? -- Join Teams Helix and Discovery. Rest in Peace, Leonard David Smith, my best friend, you are missed badly! Rest in peace, Pop, glad our last years were good. Please pray for Colin, he has ependymoma, a brain cancer, donate to a children's Hospital. |
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1 edit | Personally I don't plan on buying anything but Acer for the foreseeable future. I bought my first one in 2005 and used until 2010 at which time I upgraded to the one I have now. The original purchase was a 1.6ghz Turion Acer Aspire 5000 series with 1GB Ram and Windows XP, the only thing I have done to this was upgrade to 2GB ram in that entire time. That laptop ran BIONC 24/7 365 until about three months ago when I gave it to my sister-in-law. She uses it daily with no issues whatsoever.
The one I have now is another Aspire, this one is a 7000 series with an AMD 2.1ghz N950 Phenom quad-core, that came stock with 4GB ram I think. I have since upgraded this one to a 128GB SSD and 12GB ram (out of want not necessity). This computer has ran BIONC since day one 24/7 365 in addition to doing video conversion, HTPC duty and all around use. Neither have any issues whatsoever. My next one will likely be an Aspire of current model with an Intel I7 if I get another laptop at all.
I realize this is all anecdotal but it is my experience. I helped a friend pick out a different 7000 series Aspire with an I5 and he has had no issues that I know either.
If I were buying one for myself from your link there it would be this one: »www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···34215662
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| reply to signmeuptoo said by signmeuptoo:I am thinking a Dell or Asus are best choice. If it is a choice between Dell or ASUS, go with the ASUS. Just my opinion. |
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| reply to signmeuptoo Well, I know that this is not the first time I've posted something similar to this but for what it is worth here goes:
Buy the notebook with the best combination of features that you are looking for, at the best price. Period.
There is no qualitative difference in notebook "brand names" and has not been for some time now.
They are all built in China, many of the top name brands at the very same facility.
To say that a Lenovo, Acer, HP, Sony, ASUS, Toshiba is a "better" brand than another simply flies in the face of the facts.
They all use either an Intel or AMD CPU. Hard drives, SSDs, ram, LCD screens, mainboards, batteries, et al come form the same handful of manufacturers. About the only exception is that some brands may support mainboard firmware updates better than others.
The only point of difference is price. A higher end Acer is better than a lower tier Lenovo...or Dell, and of course, the reverse is equally true.
Product support is universally sketchy...check any of the notebook user forums.
The one difference that I do think is relevant is the actual "feel" of the unit. I would never recommend buying any model without getting your hands on it, and seeing if it feels right to you. Go to a local B&M such as Staples or Best Buy, and at least check it out, even if you then buy one on-line.
Singmeuptoo, at your price range, an i3 is of course most common, though you may get a good buy on an i5 equipped lappie. Personally, the Intel i3 is more than enough cpu for most purposes, and if it came between an i3 model with more features than a comparably priced i5 notebook, then I'd probably go with the i3 model. -- Deeds, not words |
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| reply to signmeuptoo How about this one?
»www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···34216383
Add $80 for 2 year warranty for $630 total.
You want at least an i5.
It has Intel HD4000 which are is good for graphics.
Not sure how long battery would last in that unit, it's 45-watt hour. -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. - Albert Einstein |
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| That one seems ok. Unfortunately, I probably don't have the luxury of going around test driving models, as I have no wheels. There are a couple places maybe.
I can imagine two issues that would make me unhappy: The feel of the keyboard making typing unpleasant, and something I experienced once: The touchpad, where when I typed, the cursor kept jumping as I was wresting my palm. Drove me crazy, but it wasn't my laptop. -- Join Teams Helix and Discovery. Rest in Peace, Leonard David Smith, my best friend, you are missed badly! Rest in peace, Pop, glad our last years were good. Please pray for Colin, he has ependymoma, a brain cancer, donate to a children's Hospital. |
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 signmeuptooThank you YankeesPremium join:2001-11-22 NanoParticle kudos:4 | reply to J E F F How about this one: »www.staples.com/Lenovo-Ideapad-Z···t_984631
In any event, I don't have my refund yet... |
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| If I was not bias toward Acer, I would have no problem with this computer. Looks to me like a good setup for the money. If I understand my previous research Lenovo is a respectable brand if that means anything. -- malo periculosam libertatem quam quietum servitium
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| reply to signmeuptoo I have no issues with that computer.
I got the ex (she paid) a Lenovo, and it's been dropped, spilt water on, treated like crap, still working. Solid machines too. I got her unit from Canada Computers, but that means nothing to you.
Again, if you can afford it, extended warranty if not expensive. -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. - Albert Einstein |
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 | reply to signmeuptoo The main difference between the mobile i3 and i5 is the i5 has Turbo Boost. The i3 tops out at whatever its rated speed is, whereas the i5 will cut power to unused cores and raise the speed of the remaining ones. With the current crop of chips, the boost provided is quite a lot depending on the workload. Having said that, the i3 is no slouch. -- KI6RIT |
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 signmeuptooThank you YankeesPremium join:2001-11-22 NanoParticle kudos:4 | Oh! So that's it! Thanks for that! |
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| reply to signmeuptoo This is a bit more but when someone asks about laptops I always chime in a vote for MSI laptops. Part for part you can't find a better computer for the prices. And their customer service is excellent.
»www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···34152378
Biggest drawback is Win 8.
I own a couple of Asus laptop's too and they've been rock solid for the money. I also have 3 Acer's and no problems at all with them either. -- #9 beat Notre Dame handily and we play St John's on Sunday. |
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 signmeuptooThank you YankeesPremium join:2001-11-22 NanoParticle kudos:4 | Oh I can't that that. My limit is 550. My refund is not enough for that. After sales tax, 550 is about 600, and there is shipping. I could maybe do 560, but my limit is pretty tight. |
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| I was thinking maybe if down the line you should contemplate another laptop just to keep MSI in mind. They make some really nice stuff. Like I said I have some lower end laptops from Asus and Acer and they run just fine. I do prefer Intel over AMD at this particular point. The i3 and i5's are very quick.
How I go about buying a laptop is I make a list of what I want then start researching the different options (CPU, Hard drive, etc), then head to newegg and start checking off my list. Whichever brand has the most check marks at my budget price wins. The last thing I look at is maker unless it's someone I've never heard of then I have to do some extra research.
Good luck! -- #9 beat Notre Dame handily and we play St John's on Sunday. |
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 signmeuptooThank you YankeesPremium join:2001-11-22 NanoParticle kudos:4 | what things are on your list. What things do you suggest for MY list? Thanks! |
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 JoelC707Premium join:2002-07-09 West Point, GA kudos:5 | I'm in the same boat you are but I've got a bit more to spend (I'd like to go no higher than $1000). I was going to post a similar question but figure the answers will be the same for me lol.
My current laptop is an Acer Aspire 5315-2326 and I've had good luck with Acers and bad luck with HPs. Every HP/Compaq I've had myself or know from friends have had several problems. Yeah I know it's anecdotal evidence but I personally steer away from HP/Compaq. Beyond that I have no issues with any other brands.
Here's what's on my criteria so far: i5/i7 or AMD APU (prefer i5/i7) 1920x1080 resolution
Those two items alone start out my list from Newegg at $650 which puts it out of your budget. Most of that is because of the resolution I picked. I'd prefer the higher resolution but even the 1366x768 would be comparable to the 1280x800 my current laptop has.
With Windows 8, you'll really appreciate a touchscreen. You can find ones with a touch screen within your price range but just keep in mind, you get what you pay for so the touchscreen won't be the best of the bunch. Personally I'd probably reinstall Windows 7 if I didn't have a touch screen though I've yet to actually try Windows 8 myself so /shrug.
Criteria I'd like to see but not required: Blu-ray (I have a slim USB Blu-ray drive so this isn't really required and means I don't even need an optical drive for that matter) Touchscreen 8GB RAM (minimum 4/6 GB) Quad core (dual core would be minimum) 17" screen (15ish minimum) Dedicated GPU (still debating this one, HD4000 graphics are pretty good usually for WoW which is the most intensive thing I would do on it and would be better for battery life) SSD (I could easily replace this myself later on too) |
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| JoelC707 just as an aside I am not sure how signmeuptoo or the mods will feel about hijacking the thread (sorta) but here is what I personally would get with your stated budget of $1000.
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 signmeuptooThank you YankeesPremium join:2001-11-22 NanoParticle kudos:4 | Feel free to advise him, I don't consider it hijacking in as much as the information might help me as well. |
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 JoelC707Premium join:2002-07-09 West Point, GA kudos:5 | reply to signmeuptoo Since you want battery life, here's a listing of high battery life laptops (it's a little old, Aug 2012): »blog.laptopmag.com/all-day-stron···otebooks
How much on-battery run time are you looking for anyway? 8+ hours? More, less? Since you can get an i5 within your price range I wouldn't look for an i3 or an AMD, personally. The rest of your requirements look good (15ish inch screen, intel CPU). How much RAM and drive space are you looking for? For me I have a file server so individual drive capacity is largely irrelevant. |
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 | reply to JoelC707 For 1100 this MSI is a great sounding machine. Fast GPU-----the only drawback to me is the CPU »www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···34152372 |
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