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mattmag
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Re: [Help] Got a ticket for ALL 3 TAIL LIGHTS staying on.



I believe you must mean *brake lights* are staying on.

First thing that comes to my mind is a defective bulb, second would be a bad socket, third is wiring problem. Tail light circuit when energized is feeding over into brake light circuit. Cruise would be inop since it is seeing current on brake light circuit.

Virtually impossible to determine exact issue without seeing it of course.


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2 months ~ ago I replaced a break light bulb that burned out. If that matters.

My cruise control worked ~ 5 months ago. '

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Jahntassa
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said by NJxxxJon:

2 months ~ ago I replaced a break light bulb that burned out. If that matters.

Yep, if you replaced a dual element bulb with a single element. You'd then be shorting out the brake lights with the parking lights. Check to make sure you have the correct bulbs, because i'll bet you don't.


Doctor Olds
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said by Jahntassa:

if you replaced a dual element bulb with a single element. You'd then be shorting out the brake lights with the parking lights. Check to make sure you have the correct bulbs, because i'll bet you don't.

You would really have to break guide pins on the single filament bulb base or destroy the dual filament base/socket to force in place the 1156 bulb (SC, SF, SP) into a socket made for the 1157 bulb (DC, DF, OP) as they are very different base designs.




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Don't know about the OP's Sentra, but my Hondas use an entirely different type of bulb. The bottom is a glass tab, and wire contacts wrap around the bottom.

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said by Bob4:

Don't know about the OP's Sentra, but my Hondas use an entirely different type of bulb. The bottom is a glass tab, and wire contacts wrap around the bottom.

Only on the high mounted light. Sentra uses the other type on the lower stop lights like Dr Olds showed.


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reply to NJxxxJon
said by NJxxxJon:

I replaced a break light bulb

It's a brake light, please.


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said by Doctor Olds:

You would really have to break guide pins on the single filament bulb base or destroy the dual filament base/socket to force in place the 1156 bulb (SC, SF, SP) into a socket made for the 1157 bulb (DC, DF, OP) as they are very different base designs.

I have seen it done many times.
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reply to Doctor Olds
said by Doctor Olds:

You would really have to break guide pins on the single filament bulb base or destroy the dual filament base/socket to force in place the 1156 bulb (SC, SF, SP) into a socket made for the 1157 bulb (DC, DF, OP) as they are very different base designs.

Don't under estimate an idiot. My popup trailer had all the 1157 bulbs replaced with 1156 (or should I say forced). I nearly broke then trying to get them out and I had to bend the sockets back as they had splayed out from the force. All the lights shorted together so previous owner put on magnetic tow lights.

Not to insult, the OP though. My trailer had all-steel sockets and an idiot did force a bulb in. Most cars have now have cheap plastic sockets that only have a notch for one of the 1157 pins so single-filament bulbs just pop in or are so sloppy, you could put almost anything in them.

Sounds like a good place to start. Also could be a 1156 bulb with 1157 flanges (made in China) have seen worse.

Can also be the contacts in the sockets. Some have small copper tabs for the bottom contacts that can easily bend and short as the bulb is twisted in. Some of the new style bulbs that twist into a circuit board can short if not turned all the way.

On my trailer, everything was shorted together. I started pulling bulbs and checking things; voltages, resistances etc. Only when I pulled both brake/turn bulbs that it was fixed.
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said by shdesigns:

Can also be the contacts in the sockets. Some have small copper tabs for the bottom contacts that can easily bend and short as the bulb is twisted in. Some of the new style bulbs that twist into a circuit board can short if not turned all the way.

On my trailer, everything was shorted together. I started pulling bulbs and checking things; voltages, resistances etc. Only when I pulled both brake/turn bulbs that it was fixed.

Saw this many times back in the day when I was a truck mechanic. The lamp-holder contacts were just copper alloy caps crimped onto the end of a piece of wire, and the wires were fitted through small springs and then grommets in holes in the bottom of the socket; the socket body, with the notches for the tabs, also served as the ground for the bulbs. Not uncommon at all to find an 1156 jammed into a socket meant for an 1157, with the contact on the base of the 1156 bulb shorting together the wires for the tail light to the wire for turn/brake signal.
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said by Doctor Olds:

said by Jahntassa:

if you replaced a dual element bulb with a single element. You'd then be shorting out the brake lights with the parking lights. Check to make sure you have the correct bulbs, because i'll bet you don't.

You would really have to break guide pins on the single filament bulb base or destroy the dual filament base/socket to force in place the 1156 bulb (SC, SF, SP) into a socket made for the 1157 bulb (DC, DF, OP) as they are very different base designs.

Absolutely agree, which is why I had to change out the driver side brake / parking light in my friends used car after he bought it.