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| [CT] Netflix SuperHD? Is anybody else seeing Netflix SuperHD available now? I guess Cox joined the Open Connect network? Check here: »signup.netflix.com/superhd
If only this meant that Netflix wouldn't be counted against the cap... |
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| No cox hasn't joined the Open Connect Network yet. It says it when you go to that link. |
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·Cincinnati Bell
| reply to HarpSupport
SuperHD Available - Cox CT |
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Wireless Networking
All Things Unix
Cox HSI
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Southwest Chat
| "Netflix Super HD requires that your Internet Provider is part of the Netflix Open Connect network. Please contact your Internet Provider to request that they join the Netflix Open Connect network so you can get Super HD."
Vudu works fine, even on Preferred, for what they call HDX According to the Netflix list, not all playback devices are supported for Super HD. . |
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| reply to HarpSupport
Right -it shows that they've joined for at least my headend - I was just wondering if anybody else was seeing it. |
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 ·Cox HSI
| reply to HarpSupport
Hmm well that is odd, as you would think if one area of cox is working, all there market's would be green lighted for this. I know for me it's saying no, and so this may be a good topic for discussion. I don't need top quality for watching netflix, but it should be an option to me. As I am a ultimate tier customer, and 100mbps down is plenty of bandwidth speed to run multiple stream's if I want. |
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 BryanInPHXPremium
join:2001-03-06
Phoenix, AZ
kudos:2 | reply to HarpSupport
Mine:
Your Internet Provider is not configured for Super HD yet. |
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no support in Omaha yet. |
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 Optimus2357Premium
join:2010-11-21
West Warwick, RI
kudos:1 | reply to HarpSupport
Your Internet Provider is ready for Super HD!
Have it in RI. Is it not compatible if streaming from a PC? Only devices? |
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BryanInPHXPremium
join:2001-03-06
Phoenix, AZ
kudos:2 Reviews:
·Cox HSI
2 edits | reply to BryanInPHX
The TiVo Premiere Netflix App does show which Titles are available in Super HD.
According to a few reports TiVo Premiere does support Super HD even though Netflix does not list it.
»www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/sh···t=500656
The Roku 2 XS 1080p Netflix App does not list Super HD availability in Titles. The current Roku Netflix App looks like the old TiVo Neflix App.
*Note: Although some Super HD eligible Roku devices do not currently display the Super HD logo, we continue to provide Super HD video quality for these devices. |
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Logitech Revue shows and plays SuperHD. |
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Your Internet Provider is not configured for Super HD yet. |
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 NormanSPremium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
kudos:9
·SONIC.NET
·Pacific Bell - SBC
| reply to lilstone87
said by lilstone87:Hmm well that is odd, as you would think if one area of cox is working, all there market's would be green lighted for this. I know for me it's saying no, and so this may be a good topic for discussion. I don't need top quality for watching netflix, but it should be an option to me. As I am a ultimate tier customer, and 100mbps down is plenty of bandwidth speed to run multiple stream's if I want.
My understanding is that the ISP provides for local placement of a Netflix server farm on the ISP transit network. I suspect that would mean Cox-Virginia and Cox-Oklahoma would have to host Netflix Open Connect on their local transit networks. The idea seems to be for the ISP customer to not leave ISP transit on the way to the Netflix streaming servers.
Trying to decide how to best test my ideas ...
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Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum |
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·Cox HSI
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| reply to HarpSupport
Not here in NOVA.
Has Cox Communications put a press release out on this? I agree that the big HSI companies will hold out on "Open Connect" because of their own OnDemand type offerings.
Ironically, the reason I dropped my DTV was Cox couldn't give me a quality picture at 720, or steady PQ. I've never had even the merest a hiccup with streaming Vudu HDX - The bandwidth is there!
Which makes me wonder... why does Netflix need an "Open Connect" and HSI providers cooperation when other streaming services don't?
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Cox Preferred HSI~SB6120~Grandstream HT502~E4500
OTA (...and proud of it!)
VOIPo |
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| Because of the bandwidth caps I believe. Netflix want a way for cable providers to not enforce bandwidth caps on Netflix streaming and Super HD is Netflix's leverage it appears. |
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NormanSPremium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
kudos:9
2 edits | reply to dlarkin_dc
Working up a better explanation; should also apply to the respondent to your post. |
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NormanSPremium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
kudos:9 Reviews:
·SONIC.NET
·Pacific Bell - SBC
| reply to Foxbat121
I wonder. I was fooling around, but think I got it wrong the first time.
While running a Hulu clip, I ran 'netstat -aon' and came up with:
TCP 192.168.42.36:50700 209.170.97.214:443 ESTABLISHED 3644
TCP 192.168.42.36:50722 17.149.36.185:5223 ESTABLISHED 1916
TCP 192.168.42.36:54128 198.87.182.173:80 ESTABLISHED 4568
TCP 192.168.42.36:54188 173.228.66.8:80 ESTABLISHED 3960
TCP 192.168.42.36:54190 173.228.66.10:80 ESTABLISHED 3960
TCP 192.168.42.36:54195 74.125.224.131:80 ESTABLISHED 3960
TCP 192.168.42.36:54197 173.228.66.10:80 ESTABLISHED 3960
TCP 192.168.42.36:54198 173.228.66.9:80 ESTABLISHED 3960
209.170.97.214 appears to be Akami in Los Angeles, California:
NetRange 209.170.97.0 - 209.170.97.255
CIDR 209.170.97.0/24
Name AKAMAI
Handle NET-209-170-97-0-1
Parent TELIANET-2BLK (NET-209-170-64-0-1)
Most likely the streaming server for Hulu. Trace route shows:
Tracing route to 209.170.97.214 over a maximum of 30 hops
1 <1 ms <1 ms 1 ms 192.168.42.1
2 26 ms 25 ms 26 ms 173-228-7-1.dsl.static.sonic.net [173.228.7.1]
3 25 ms 24 ms 25 ms gig1-4.cr1.lsatca11.sonic.net [70.36.243.13]
4 25 ms 25 ms 24 ms 0.xe-5-1-0.gw.pao1.sonic.net [69.12.211.1]
5 25 ms 25 ms 25 ms 0.xe-6-1-0.gw2.200p-sf.sonic.net [64.142.0.109]
6 26 ms 26 ms 25 ms as0.gw.200p-sf.sonic.net [208.106.96.249]
7 25 ms 26 ms 26 ms xe-10-1-0.bar2.SanFrancisco1.Level3.net [4.53.134.9]
8 27 ms 28 ms 27 ms ae-6-6.ebr2.SanJose1.Level3.net [4.69.140.154]
9 29 ms 27 ms 27 ms ae-92-92.csw4.SanJose1.Level3.net [4.69.153.30]
10 32 ms 27 ms 26 ms ae-4-90.edge2.SanJose3.Level3.net [4.69.152.209]
11 26 ms 46 ms 26 ms sjo-bb1-link.telia.net [213.248.98.29]
12 36 ms 36 ms 37 ms las-bb1-link.telia.net [80.91.247.170]
13 37 ms 36 ms 36 ms 209.170.97.214
Trace complete.
So Hulu content apparently requires leaving Sonic.net (my ISP) transit to traverse Level 3 and Telia to reach the Hulu content.
My understanding of Netflix "Open Connect" is that Netflix places their streaming servers directly on the ISP transit network, such that traversal of third party transit is not necessary.
I need to set up a Netflix account to test this.
Sonic.net, LLC is ready!
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Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum |
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| Anyone actually used SuperHD yet? How is it? Much different than normal netflix HD streams? |
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| reply to NormanS
said by NormanS:IMy understanding of Netflix "Open Connect" is that Netflix places their streaming servers directly on the ISP transit network, such that traversal of third party transit is not necessary.
Not necessary. See the technical explanation here:
»signup.netflix.com/openconnect |
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| reply to Needleinthha
IIRC, Super HD is merely 5.8 mbps. Not exactly will be Blu Ray like quality which are typically 20 to 30 mbps. |
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