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resa1983
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Re: Major CRTC decision next week. - CBB

said by mikee:

I thought that will be for videotron people only.

Whatever Videotron does for their own customers, has to be matched for wholesale.
It may be a price increase though. Who knows.

Hense why Rogers is in shit right now. They didn't offer TPIA 45/7, and CRTC is now asking questions:
»www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/archive/2013/2013-80.htm
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InvalidError

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said by resa1983:

Hense why Rogers is in shit right now. They didn't offer TPIA 45/7, and CRTC is now asking questions:
»www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/archive/2013/2013-80.htm

Is that 7Mbps on Rogers actually an "option"? There is no mention of it anywhere on Rogers' plan description so I would be inclined to believe the 7Mbps is simply something Rogers is starting to roll out and will eventually become standard but isn't quite official yet.

The optional upload speed thing is more about Bell's 15/1 vs 15/10 where they charged $4 extra, making 15/10 more expensive than 25/10 and 50/10 which makes no sense and is the reason nobody ever offered it.

resa1983
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said by InvalidError:

said by resa1983:

Hense why Rogers is in shit right now. They didn't offer TPIA 45/7, and CRTC is now asking questions:
»www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/archive/2013/2013-80.htm

Is that 7Mbps on Rogers actually an "option"? There is no mention of it anywhere on Rogers' plan description so I would be inclined to believe the 7Mbps is simply something Rogers is starting to roll out and will eventually become standard but isn't quite official yet.

The optional upload speed thing is more about Bell's 15/1 vs 15/10 where they charged $4 extra, making 15/10 more expensive than 25/10 and 50/10 which makes no sense and is the reason nobody ever offered it.

Yes, 7mbps upload on Rogers is an option, and has been since 2011.

10mbps upload option on Bell is only available in certain areas, but they still filed it.

Rogers couldn't be even bothered to do that, despite offering it to new customers, and giving it to those who asked.

From my last submission:
»Re: Rogers Upstream Bonding
»Re: Rogers Upstream Bonding
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InvalidError

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said by resa1983:

10mbps upload option on Bell is only available in certain areas, but they still filed it.

The "option" requires VDSL2 and Bell was required to file tariffs for VDSL2 access so the 10Mbps option (7Mbps at the time) is available wherever VDSL2 is.

However, the "option" makes 15/10 more expensive than 25/10 wholesale so what few ISPs ever offered it quickly scrapped it since it made no sense.

said by resa1983:

Rogers couldn't be even bothered to do that, despite offering it to new customers, and giving it to those who asked.

The threads you linked very much say the 7Mbps was a progressive roll-out, not an option.

resa1983
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said by InvalidError:

said by resa1983:

10mbps upload option on Bell is only available in certain areas, but they still filed it.

The "option" requires VDSL2 and Bell was required to file tariffs for VDSL2 access so the 10Mbps option (7Mbps at the time) is available wherever VDSL2 is.

However, the "option" makes 15/10 more expensive than 25/10 wholesale so what few ISPs ever offered it quickly scrapped it since it made no sense.

said by resa1983:

Rogers couldn't be even bothered to do that, despite offering it to new customers, and giving it to those who asked.

The threads you linked very much say the 7Mbps was a progressive roll-out, not an option.

150/10 is also a progressive roll-out on Rogers I do believe, but they still filed tariffs for it.
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said by resa1983:

150/10 is also a progressive roll-out on Rogers I do believe, but they still filed tariffs for it.

150/10 is a new tier advertised in size 80 font in their service description pages, which makes it pretty official and rather hard to miss, unlike the 7Mbps speed bump offered on a need-to-ask basis.

With the CRTC's request to file tariffs including upload speeds, you'll know soon enough whether Rogers decides to make it an official speed bump or make it a premium wholesale option.

resa1983
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said by InvalidError:

said by resa1983:

150/10 is also a progressive roll-out on Rogers I do believe, but they still filed tariffs for it.

150/10 is a new tier advertised in size 80 font in their service description pages, which makes it pretty official and rather hard to miss, unlike the 7Mbps speed bump offered on a need-to-ask basis.

With the CRTC's request to file tariffs including upload speeds, you'll know soon enough whether Rogers decides to make it an official speed bump or make it a premium wholesale option.

They were bumping people to it without them even asking in 2011.. Thats the main reason I think it's unfair.
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MaynardKrebs
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said by resa1983:

said by InvalidError:

said by resa1983:

Hense why Rogers is in shit right now. They didn't offer TPIA 45/7, and CRTC is now asking questions:
»www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/archive/2013/2013-80.htm

Is that 7Mbps on Rogers actually an "option"? There is no mention of it anywhere on Rogers' plan description so I would be inclined to believe the 7Mbps is simply something Rogers is starting to roll out and will eventually become standard but isn't quite official yet.

The optional upload speed thing is more about Bell's 15/1 vs 15/10 where they charged $4 extra, making 15/10 more expensive than 25/10 and 50/10 which makes no sense and is the reason nobody ever offered it.

Yes, 7mbps upload on Rogers is an option, and has been since 2011.

10mbps upload option on Bell is only available in certain areas, but they still filed it.

Rogers couldn't be even bothered to do that, despite offering it to new customers, and giving it to those who asked.

From my last submission:
»Re: Rogers Upstream Bonding
»Re: Rogers Upstream Bonding

SSDD - and that ain't Solid State Disk Drive.

So Rogers doesn't give TPIA the same speeds for a long time. Big deal. Now it's back in the indie court to spend money on lawyers to file & re-file & re-file documents and submissions to the CRTC - burning a big hole in their pockets with legal fees up the wazoo. Rogers doesn't give a flying f!ck. The CRTC has no teeth. And so it'll take another 6-12 months to get this shite resolved, and Rogers continues to have a competitive advantage.

It's just one regular, my friends..... another day in the life of incumbents and the impotent CRTC.