| What modem's can i use with FIBE i am getting bell fibe 25/10 and want to know if i buy a modem from somewhere what one's will work with it ? |
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Max_War
join:2002-11-30
Scarborough, ON | You can't buy a modem for Fibe since no one sells VDSL modems. Bell will provide one for a one time fee of $99. |
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 JCohenPremium
join:2010-10-19
Nepean, ON
kudos:2 | reply to rickyfk
The ZyXel VSG 1432 will work with Bell Fibe, however the Sagemcom that Bell provides works just fine for the service. |
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kovy
join:2009-03-26
kudos:8 | reply to rickyfk
I think it depends on what SLAM you'll be connected to. |
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JCohenPremium
join:2010-10-19
Nepean, ON
kudos:2 Reviews:
 ·Start Communicat..
 ·TekSavvy Cable
 ·Bell Fibe
·Rogers Hi-Speed
| said by kovy:I think it depends on what SLAM you'll be connected to.
From what I remember when people started to use them, they worked with both the Stingers and the 7330's. |
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 GuspazGuspazPremium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
kudos:19 | reply to rickyfk
The ZyXel modem will not work on Bell stingers, unless I'm mistaken.
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 HiVoltPremium
join:2000-12-28
Toronto, ON
kudos:15
·TekSavvy Cable
·TekSavvy DSL
| said by Guspaz:The ZyXel modem will not work on Bell stingers, unless I'm mistaken.
It does not, I tested one, it didn't even sync.
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JCohenPremium
join:2010-10-19
Nepean, ON
kudos:2 Reviews:
·Start Communicat..
·TekSavvy Cable
·Bell Fibe
·Rogers Hi-Speed
| said by HiVolt:said by Guspaz:The ZyXel modem will not work on Bell stingers, unless I'm mistaken.
It does not, I tested one, it didn't even sync. Good to know. |
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docbill
join:2006-10-24
Stoney Creek, ON Reviews:
·Bell Sympatico
·Velcom
·Bell Fibe
·Start Communicat..
 ·voip.ms
·PortBridge Inter..
·Cogeco Cable
| reply to rickyfk
Even if you own one, you can't use it. Some DSL providers, such as Velcom will either sell or rent you a modem. If you buy it and switch to another provider, you will be forced to buy or rent another. Bell Canada will not allow them to provide VSDL service without also providing the modem. It is in their contracts. So the only reason to buy one is if you want a standby modem in case your service provided modem failed. |
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JCohenPremium
join:2010-10-19
Nepean, ON
kudos:2 Reviews:
·Start Communicat..
·TekSavvy Cable
·Bell Fibe
·Rogers Hi-Speed
| said by docbill:Even if you own one, you can't use it. Some DSL providers, such as Velcom will either sell or rent you a modem. If you buy it and switch to another provider, you will be forced to buy or rent another. Bell Canada will not allow them to provide VSDL service without also providing the modem. It is in their contracts. So the only reason to buy one is if you want a standby modem in case your service provided modem failed.
The main reason people replace the Samgemcom modems is because they are fairly locked down and have a bunch of quirks that intermediate to advanced users find quite annoying.
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docbill
join:2006-10-24
Stoney Creek, ON Reviews:
·Bell Sympatico
·Velcom
·Bell Fibe
·Start Communicat..
·voip.ms
·PortBridge Inter..
·Cogeco Cable
2 edits | If you have 25/10 service:
You don't need to replace the modem. Just configure your router with the PPPoE information, and it will login directly. Older versions of the modems firmware had the problem that they worked at half speed for pass through PPPoE, but that has long since been resolved. |
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kovy
join:2009-03-26
kudos:8 | said by docbill:You don't need to replace the modem. Just configure your router with the PPPoE information, and it will login directly. Older versions of the modems firmware had the problem that they worked at half speed for pass through PPPoE, but that has long since been resolved. However, if you do run into problems, just replace the username in the modem with something bogus, so only your router is connected over PPPoE.
Don't know what you're talking about. I had the, the update to date firmware and it only gave me 35mbps speed. If you don't have info, I suggest to not talk about it.
Seriously get up to date before you spread any info. |
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shaded
join:2010-10-02
Ottawa, ON Reviews:
·Start Communicat..
| reply to docbill
said by docbill:You don't need to replace the modem. Just configure your router with the PPPoE information, and it will login directly. Older versions of the modems firmware had the problem that they worked at half speed for pass through PPPoE, but that has long since been resolved. However, if you do run into problems, just replace the username in the modem with something bogus, so only your router is connected over PPPoE.
ya that "works fine" if you're on a 25/10 or slower speed, but the modem won't do more than 33Mbit/sec in 'bridge' mode as mentioned.
the modem is also pretty junky and dies with a lot of traffic. |
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| reply to kovy
I'm not sure if the slow bridge issue was introduced with new firmware, but if somebody knows how to flash firmware on the Sagem's and wants to try an old version, this is the file that shipped on the modems last Spring: FAST2864_v76396.img.secure (8.9 MB) |
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kovy
join:2009-03-26
kudos:8 | reply to rickyfk
said by rickyfk:i am getting bell fibe 25/10 and want to know if i buy a modem from somewhere what one's will work with it ?
Well the Cellpipe has a limit of around 40mbps... So I'm pretty sure it's been there for a while. |
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docbill
join:2006-10-24
Stoney Creek, ON Reviews:
·Bell Sympatico
·Velcom
·Bell Fibe
·Start Communicat..
·voip.ms
·PortBridge Inter..
·Cogeco Cable
1 edit | reply to kovy
I have 25/10 service. So I would have no way to measure what happens beyond that. I imagine most users still have 25/7 or 25/10, possibly with Fibe TV. As Bell introduces faster speeds, those using them will face new challenges. If you are buying your own modem, it may or may not work for those enhanced services. Just as even if your alternative brand modem works with Bell today, since there is no support from Bell, you have no way of knowing Bell will not change something that locks out your modem in the future. To me, using an alternative modem sounds like a big crap shoot. |
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kovy
join:2009-03-26
kudos:8 | said by docbill:said by kovy:Don't know what you're talking about. I had the, the update to date firmware and it only gave me 35mbps speed. If you don't have info, I suggest to not talk about it.
Seriously get up to date before you spread any info.
I have 25/10 service. So I would have no way to measure what happens beyond that. I imagine most users still have 25/7 or 25/10, possibly with Fibe TV. As Bell introduces faster speeds, those using them will face new challenges. If you are buying your own modem, it may or may not work for those enhanced services. Just as even if your alternative brand modem works with Bell today, since there is no support from Bell, you have no way of knowing Bell will not change something that locks out your modem in the future. To me, using an alternative modem sounds like a big crap shoot. Still doesn't change the fact that you're giving false information.
The only reason why I would use a Sagemcom is if I didn't have any other option.
With a 60$ alternative modem, I think it's well worth it. I don't see how Bell could lock this up. Did Bell lock out any ADSL modem ? |
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docbill
join:2006-10-24
Stoney Creek, ON
2 edits | Last February (2012), PPPoE gave me half speed. About 12 Mbps. At that time deactivating the modem login allowed full speed. Later a firmware update fixed it, so I could get full speed without disabling the login. |
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kovy
join:2009-03-26
kudos:8 | said by docbill:said by kovy:Still doesn't change the fact that you're giving false information.
No it is perfectly valid information, and I don't appreciate you saying otherwise. Last January, PPPoE gave me half speed. About 12 Mbps. At that time deactivating the modem login allowed full speed. Later a firmware update fixed it, so I could get full speed without disabling the login. The problem is there is an unstated assumption of what "full speed" means. For me it is 25 Mbps. For you it is 50 Mbps. I can't say what it will be in the future. I would be curious to find out though if for the 50 Mbps if disabling the login on the modem is still a viable workaround. I wish I could test that for you. There's no disabling the login in the modem. Again more false information. The modem will authenticate itself with the sagemcom default ID.
Don't need to test, I already know everything about it... hence why I got another modem. |
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docbill
join:2006-10-24
Stoney Creek, ON Reviews:
·Bell Sympatico
·Velcom
·Bell Fibe
·Start Communicat..
·voip.ms
·PortBridge Inter..
·Cogeco Cable
3 edits | said by kovy:There's no disabling the login in the modem. Again more false information. The modem will authenticate itself with the sagemcom default ID.
Looks like you don't understand. You don't reset it to the default username. You set to a username or password that gives authentification error. As I said I have no idea if this would still work with the current firmware. Obviously neither do you, as you don't even realize it used to be needed to do. (I didn't discover this trick on my own, someone else shared it to me as a comment on my review.) Since you don't really know it all, lets just shut this discussion down now... This thread is aiding no one.
Here are the exact instructions I followed last year:
»scomputerservicesgta.com/sharing···/op3.php
As shared to me, here:
»check scomputerservicesgta.com |
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