finortis
join:2001-11-30
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Re: No Class
And Richard Nixon (who not only got impeachment charges brought against him for Watergate, but also for abusing the IRS tax auditing system to "deal with" "political enemies" was just as much a conservative as Ted Kennedy was a liberal. And in the end, I wouldn't view either as better... And does anyone know be it the party affiliation, or whether Hoover would have classified himself as a conservative or liberal? With people like Hoover though, it little matters either way. Cointelpro was still Cointelpro, and his dealings were exactly what they were.... |
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK | reply to jhudson2
Unlike Conservatives, who are all perfect, all knowing, and never do anything wrong. Ever. Until they get caught.
BTW Wasn't Jesus called a liberal... a radical... oh yes, in fact he WAS, wasn't he... |
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Doctor Four
My other vehicle is a TARDIS
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join:2000-09-05
Dallas, TX
 ·AT&T U-Verse
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Re: Fair Game
There actually is a tactic used by the "Church" of
$cientology that goes by this name. It involves using
the Court system to silence any of their critics. In
doing so, they are violating others' 1st Amendment rights.
This organization, described as crackpots, idiotic, and
other similar epithets is by definition a religious cult,
and one of the accusations levelled at them is that they
exert mind control over their participants. On the Web,
they've used SLAPP lawsuits and now the DMCA to censor
their critics, and in an extreme case of what can only
be called body snatching, they shut down and took over
the Cult Awareness Network's website - it is now manned
by $cientologists. Yet another accusation directed at
them is that they are scamming people out of their
money. In some countries, most notably Germany, the group's
members have been arrested and the practice outright
banned. The A&E Cable TV network did a 2 hour investigative
report on $cientology: a lot of this information came from
that investigation, with the help of ex-$cientologists
and critics alike. The A&E program was called Investigative
Reports: Inside Scientology, and the video can be ordered
from their website
(for anyone who is interested).
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"Kayura or Badamon, whichever you are, you should know that I will never give up this battle. By the will of the Ancient, I shall succeed!" - Shuten (Anubis) from the Ronin Warriors.
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wolfvgang
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Ha ha ha! "Fair Game" is a great choice of words...visit Xenu.Com and see how L. Ron Hubbard, the founder of the Church of Scientology used the phrase fair game...it's scary stuff. |
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jhudson2
Copyright Martyr
join:2000-11-07
San Marcos, CA
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Re: No Class
I know there are lots of famous high-profile Catholic liberals and Protestant liberals and Jewish liberals and Muslim liberals and maybe some Hindu liberals and certainly at least one Buddhist liberal. But I'm sure they just pay lip service to aspects of personal behavior and attitudes that their respective religions endorse.
Cause they're liberals ya know. |
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Ray
Mahnahmahna
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Mesa, AZ
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The "fair use" wasn't in reference to your post, it was meant as the basis for the copyright infringement charges. Exactly how much can you paste onto your website before fair use becomes a copyright violation?
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I meant to do that. |
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BrianDamage
We Are The Hounds From Hell
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join:2001-08-14
Rowlett, TX
clubs:  | reply to Ray
Pay closer attention. I said fair game, not "fair use". |
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Ray
Mahnahmahna
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join:2001-04-02
Mesa, AZ | reply to BrianDamage
I didn't say what they did was illegal, just questionable! Exactly what is "fair use"?
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I meant to do that. |
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BrianDamage
We Are The Hounds From Hell
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join:2001-08-14
Rowlett, TX
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Yeah, it would seem as yet another abuse contributable to overzealous attitudes of recent memory. (9/11, etc.)
But I agree that if they don't want their practices scrutinized, then they should be practicing them.
The Catholic Church has existed much longer and it is not without unscrupulous members, and has been subject to criticism as much as it has been subject to support, as well.
We could argue that point for just about every religion that exists today.
It's fair game, and if it can be proven that illegal activities take place in the practice of the religion, or by people associated with the religion but not necessarily in the practice of it, then these people should pay the price.
If these religions have questionable, possibly fraudulent or illegal tactics, then it should be brought to light.
I don't think it's any coincidence though that these Scientologists target actors and actresses, musicians, etc., for inclusion, because-
1. They are mostly devout liberals,
2. They have lots of cash, and
3. The principles of Scientology agree with aspects of
personal behaviours and attitudes that other churches
or religions would not endorse.
That's just my opinion.
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We've got our eye on the firmaments, our hand on the armaments, our heads full of arguments, and words for our monuments..... |
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