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alanhdsl
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reply to NOVA_Guy
Re: Not a suprise

said by clrankin:
And I disagree with placing caps on how much data can be downloaded per month too. The service I buy already has a certain speed it's capped at; if the ISP is unwilling/unable to support people using an all-you-can-grab connection at those speeds, they should either close their doors or upgrade their network. (Again, I have no problem putting my money where my mouth is)
I guess the key question is, how much are you willing to pay for a premium service? I'm sure New Zealand Telecom would be delighted if you bought them a trans-Pacific OC-192.

ISPs usually structure their prices based on average usage, but they've discovered a handful of users are way outside that. So they either spread the costs to everyone, or they just ding those using the bandwidth.


Hayward
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Key West, FL

reply to NOVA_Guy
said by clrankin:
if the ISP is unwilling/unable to support people using an all-you-can-grab connection at those speeds, they should either close their doors or upgrade their network.

Interesting the third OBVIOUS thing isn't there... that bandwidth hogs actually PAY their way, rather than the "normal moderate users" the services are designed and priced for, subsidizing the hogs, or being penalized because of the hogs behavior.
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NOVA_Guy
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·Comcast
·VOIPo

reply to Nightfall
said by Nightfall:
I make sure P2P file sharing, and other bandwidth intensive apps are banned/blocked on my network here at work. I would do the same thing if I worked at that ISP.
Let's differentiate between work and home use Internet for a moment. I certainly have no problem banning access to P2P file sharing services at work, as it:
(1) Is company-paid and supplied bandwidth, giving them the right to ultimately control what it is used for, and
(2) Isn't job-related or productive use of the Internet connection.
It's a cost-saving measure to some extent, and I really don't think it's necessary to download MP3s all day at work. Heck, that's not what I'm being paid for.

Now, on the other hand, when I the user am paying an ISP my hard-earned money for service, I expect to be able to determine what I do and don't do. I've paid for bandwidth and service; that's how my DSL line was sold to me. Telling me I can't use file sharing applications on my home connection is tantamount to telling me I can't start a VPN session to access my computer at work, telling me I can't connect to an FTP server to download a document, and telling me I can't run an email server on my home network.

Assuming that other ISPs were available in my area, I certainly wouldn't choose one that blocked my ability to do anything on the Internet, even if I had to pay more money.

And I disagree with placing caps on how much data can be downloaded per month too. The service I buy already has a certain speed it's capped at; if the ISP is unwilling/unable to support people using an all-you-can-grab connection at those speeds, they should either close their doors or upgrade their network. (Again, I have no problem putting my money where my mouth is)

Hopefully not all ISPs will implement download amount caps. While I'm far from one of the "vampires" mentioned in the article, I still use the Internet on a daily basis from home. And I still download files, sometimes large ones. And I use my DSL connection for full-screen remote control of office computers once I've connected to work through their VPN resources. I don't know how much data is transferred as a result of my being connected to the Internet 24/7, and I don't want to keep track of it either. And I'm willing to pay for this luxury.
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