| RadLight 3.03 R5.2 silently uninstalls Ad-Aware Check this out:
From »www.security-pro.co.uk/yabb/YaBB···19508657 :
"It has come to our attention that the RadLight 3.03R5.2 (by Radlight) software intentionally tries to uninstall Ad-aware components from your system, without requesting your permission or knowledge.
After reports from concerned users, our tests have shown that the Radlight software indeed checks for the default Ad-aware installation path, and then removes
all files that are not currently in use, upon its first execution.
Until now, such a malicious behaviour was commonly known for viruses and trojans.
It does not slip through Ad-watch, or hides from the Ad-aware scanner, Radlight is not (yet) targeted by Ad-aware or Ad-watch.
It performs an silent uninstall of the Ad-aware components, including desktop shortcuts and startmenu items.
This is not a bug in the RadLight software, it is intentionally uninstalling Ad-aware, with the only purpose to make your system attainable for further malware installation.
And af this wasn't enough, the Radlight software is bundled with WhenU's SaveNow software, a well known data mining company. If Ad-watch is running, it will correctly prevent the installation of Savenow.
If neither Ad-aware or Ad-watch is active, they both will be uninstalled through the Radlight software upon its first execution.
A fix is in progress, and we feel its necessary to add Radlight to the AAW target list. This is malware at it worst.
Team Lavasoft
Urizen "
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| that is absolutely APPALLING. first of all, i don't know much about radlight but it's probably installed without the user's knowledge/consent, and then to INTENTIONALLY uninstall *another* company's software without the user's knowledge/consent...is that even legal? i mean, the tds-3 issue was one thing, cos at least it was tds uninstalling its own software but this is a whole other story...
oh, i just googled 'radlight' and came up with a divx player- is this the same radlight? if so, why would a divx player need to uninstall ad-aware? so peculiar. |
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| said by angeldivax:
that is absolutely APPALLING. first of all, i don't know much about radlight but it's probably installed without the user's knowledge/consent, and then to INTENTIONALLY uninstall *another* company's software without the user's knowledge/consent...is that even legal?
I don't know much about the legal side of it, but I suspect it isn't.
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oh, i just googled 'radlight' and came up with a divx player- is this the same radlight? if so, why would a divx player need to uninstall ad-aware? so peculiar.
It might be the one in question, but I guess that will become clear soon enough when you attempt to launch Ad-Aware...
Why it does it, I don't know. Maybe to protect the spyware bundled with it, I presume. |
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By default Ad Aware location, do you mean:
Default Adaware or Adaware Plus location?
And if both, could I re-install Adaware or Adaware Plus in an unusual location, say, under the Adobe, or Corel directory?
Thanks
Just trying to do a work around in the meantime......
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 VampirefoPremium,MVM
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LOL, Thanks for the laugh, I guess everyone is upset about this, Seeing it's a company no one cares about, seems almost the same method TDS -3 wanted to use and people were supporting that.
The people at the WSF forum just kill me, SPY1 is talking about suing, but just a few weeks ago he completely support the ideal as long as Wayne did it.
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| reply to Jan Janowski
I understand it goes for both.
Meanwhile, here's the original thread:
»www.lavasoft.nu/cgi-bin/forums/i···=20;t=13
And here's another one, where a lively discussion will soon be underway, I expect:
»www.lavasoft.nu/cgi-bin/forums/i···10;t=134 |
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| reply to Vampirefo
Do as I say..not say as I do! I also had a snicker, Vamp. |
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| reply to Vampirefo
said by Vampirefo:
LOL, Thanks for the laugh, I guess everyone is upset about this, Seeing it's a company no one cares about, seems almost the same method TDS -3 wanted to use and people were supporting that.
The people at the WSF forum just kill me, SPY1 is talking about suing, but just a few weeks ago he completely support the ideal as long as Wayne did it.
At least Wayne was talking about his own program, not about someone else's.
I know, Vampirefo, anything that comes from the WSF forum is by definition suspect, as far as you're concerned, even if it's just a quote from the Lavasoft board, and deep down I know there's nothing I can do to change that.
So I won't... 
Cheers, Tony
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 elboricuaEl SubestimadoPremium
join:2001-08-12
Bronx, NY | reply to TonyKlein
I agree with angeldivax. This is absolutely appalling. Companies are now trying to target the security conscience consumer. Removing the tools for spyware detection probably will not affect the truly security conscience as we will be able to detect and correct the problem.
So we have virus that can remove AV progs, and now spyware that can remove anti spyware progs. What's next?
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 Jamming777$Time Is Running OutPremium
join:2001-07-25
USA | reply to TonyKlein
Just added radlight.net and radlight.sk to my restricted list. Luckily my Ad-aware is all ready in a non-standard location.
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Re: RadLight 3.03 R5.2 silently uninstalls Ad-Awar It removes both AAW free and AAW+ according to the AAW developer. Radlight has screwed up very badly with this. Considering it's predatory and malicious behavior, I imagine other anti-spyware developers will also add this thing to their target lists out of self-defense.
Vampirefo,
that other issue was with a developer using his own product to do what it does. In this case, it is a media player which makes no mention anywhere that it is going to remove any software, let alone our software.
Anyone who wants to look, I've published Radlight's license on my site. »www.spywareinfo.com
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Re: RadLight 3.03 R5.2 silently uninstalls Ad-Aware Edited. Insulting others is not how we do things here --WCB!
I've added the email addy of Radlight and the link to Cnets' 'Feedback' form to the wilders link, here:
»www.security-pro.co.uk/yabb/YaBB···19507174
Anyone who cares to can let both the developer and Cnet know how they feel about this. Pete
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| reply to TonyKlein
Mike,
Is there anything you guys can do in order to prevent it you think? |
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Could you explain to the un-informed how you add a radlight.net and radlight.sk to a 'restricted' list?
Thanks.
Also, If I re-install adaware plus in an non-standard location, you are saying it will be ok there, right?
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| reply to TonyKlein
Re: RadLight 3.03 R5.2 silently uninstalls Ad-Awar He's adding it to a new reference list and he says he's working on a fix. Not sure what he means by that. I'm pretty sure anyone running AA+ is going to have a helluva time installing Radlight. 
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Re: RadLight 3.03 R5.2 silently uninstalls Ad-Aware Thanks for the information.
I just added www.radlight.net to Proxo's URL KILL file.
Nobody on this puter will get there now.
Good luck to ya' Mike Healan. Hope you guys can put a stop to this nonsense.
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 Lurkers incDon't Call Me Doink
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said by Vampirefo:
LOL, Thanks for the laugh, I guess everyone is upset about this, Seeing it's a company no one cares about, seems almost the same method TDS -3 wanted to use and people were supporting that.
The people at the WSF forum just kill me, SPY1 is talking about suing, but just a few weeks ago he completely support the ideal as long as Wayne did it.
/off topic
As you know TD3-3 was not uninstalling another company's product. I don't think SPY1 would agreee that is ok either. Your bias is showing and says more about you than anything else! 
/end off topic.
Who are these idiots? »216.194.92.96/ You can't delete other's ppl's software and expect to get away with it... Well maybe if you are Microsoft you can.
Paul,
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| reply to Jan Janowski
Re: RadLight 3.03 R5.2 silently uninstalls Ad-Awar The default location will be fine unless you have this media player. Otherwise, I don't believe there'll be any problem installing in a non-default location, but I can't say for sure. Try it and let me know if there is a problem.
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| said by Mike Healan:
The default location will be fine unless you have this media player.
I don't use this media player, and will stay away from it.
What's next: Real Player deleting Media Player and Quicktime?
I can see it now, you turn you computer on, and watch the programs duke it out on your display!!!
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| reply to TonyKlein
Re: RadLight 3.03 R5.2 silently uninstalls Ad-Aware In the meanwhile, we are (trying to) solve this problem, eg. putting Adaware out of business like that, regardless what method used - in conjunction with the Lavasoft/Adaware designer.
Keep you posted.
regards.
paul wilders
»www.wilders.org security |
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