PatientGuy
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| reply to ramones74
Re: Jeez!
I've been searching for download sites looking for Radlight v3.03R5 (rl3r52.exe). I then have been E-mailing the sites asking them to remove Radlight from their servers. I urge others to do the same. If you find other sites that offer Radlight for download publish them here so I and others can E-mail them too. Let's start a peoples revolt against scumware!
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PatientGuy
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| Negative Response from Simtel
Complete text of an E-mail recieved from Simtel:
I suggest you read the email at our web site's forum area related to this.
RadLight is acting no differently than Ad-Aware is acting. Ad-Aware
removes Adware components with the user's permission. RadLight removes
Ad-Aware with the user's permission.
Seems fair to me.
Once RadLight added VERY clear announcements to their install process, the
decision here at Simtel.Net was to let their product stay.
When you can explain how RadLight's actions are more heinous than
Ad-Aware's, we'll rethink our position.
We believe in an informed user. Let the user decide: does he want
RadLight? Or Ad-Aware?
I for one am getting irritated at the publicity campaign being drummed up
by the Ad-Aware publishers, fighting back at a threat to their commercial
interests, and trying to force US into doing what they want. That could
be a far uglier trend than the piddling tempest in a teakettle between
RadLight and Ad-Aware.
Regards,
David
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David Kirschbaum, Archivist for Simtel(tm)
Internet: kirschd@Simtel.Net »www.simtel.net/
On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, F C. wrote:
> A program available for download from your service (rl3r52.exe) contains
> code that is malicious in nature.
> " Radlight v3.03R5 have included code that not only looks to
> see if the user has Ad-Aware or Ad-Aware Plus installed on their
> systems, but
> also will uninstall and delete every trace of Ad-Aware;"
>
> »www.technews.com/news/02/176075.html
> »www.lsfileserv.com/latest.html
>
> Distributing software that deletes other programs could set a bad
> precedent that could lead to a general deterioration of share/free ware.
> C-NET has removed it from there servers. I urge you to please do the
> same. Let's put a stop to this ugly trend before it gets started.
[text was edited by author 2002-04-24 11:32:04] |
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JYoung
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Sherman Oaks, CA
| said by David Kirschbaum, Archivist for Simtel:
I for one am getting irritated at the publicity campaign being drummed up
by the Ad-Aware publishers, fighting back at a threat to their commercial
interests, and trying to force US into doing what they want. That could
be a far uglier trend than the piddling tempest in a teakettle between
RadLight and Ad-Aware.
Say what?????
I didn't have a problem with Simtel's response until I got to that bit.
Hello????
Lavasoft provides basic Adaware for free which gives you control over what programs you want installed on your pc and what information you want sent out. Adaware doesn't make you get rid of any software unless you tell it to remove it. Radlight doesn't allow you to use it's software unless Adaware is removed (isn't this the attitude that got Microsoft in court?).
It's obvious that Simtel doesn't get it. I checked and the latest version of Adaware that they have on their site is 3.6!
Add Simtel to my list of banned sites......
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robnelle
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| Not only is the reply from 'Sin'tel asinine but they obviously can't handle the criticism from the endusers. Take a look at their forums: »216.194.92.96/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=2
Notice they have deleted almost all of the negative posts said against them.Check out the post counts for the threads and then look at how many posts are actually in the threads.That's so sad. That is horrible PR!!!
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join:2002-01-20
Minneapolis, MN
| reply to PatientGuy
"When you can explain how RadLight's actions are more heinous than
Ad-Aware's, we'll rethink our position."
Any moron could explain this. The sole purpose of Ad-Aware is to remove spyware. Nobody downloads Ad-Aware without knowing what it does. It's purpose is made clear, and there are no "hidden features" that are unwanted or harmful.
Radlight is a DivX player, a freakin' movie player! People download it so they can watch movies encoded in the divX codec. Nobody would suspect it also functions as an application removal program. It doesn't matter if they tell the user about it in the License Agreement.
Running an intrusive feature that has nothing to do the functionality of the main program is severely different than running Ad-Aware. Ad-Aware is what it's advertised as, nothing more, and nothing less. That is the difference. It's disturbing and disgusting that a major company would take this stance. I hope it comes back to bite them in the ass.
It's comparing apples to oranges, and it doesn't match up. This guy is either in bed with Radlight's creators or severely challenged in the logic department. |
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