misiek
join:2000-12-25
Round Lake, IL
|  RT picture(s) .
Hi all,
Does anyone have any pictures of the actual RT? The reason I am asking is because I spotted a rectangular steel green box with a bunch of numbers / letters, including the word CO, all over the front panel. The size of it is about 4' wide by 2' high by 4' deep. The front panel/door is pad locked. The whole thing sits on a 2" thick concrete slab which in turn is positioned directly on the ground in a homeowner's backyard. I am wondering if this could be an RT.
Sorry if this inquiry has some rough edges as English is not my native language.
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manx6
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join:1999-12-05
Algonquin, IL
| Sounds too small to be an RT capable of handling ADSL. Here's a picture of one that will. It's 70"h 103"w 50"d.
BTW, your English is just fine.
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misiek
join:2000-12-25
Round Lake, IL | Well, it sure looks different than the box I spotted.
Thanks! |
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swilliams
join:1999-09-07
Mount Prospect, IL
 ·AT&T Midwest
| reply to misiek
said by misiek:
I spotted a rectangular steel green box with a bunch of numbers / letters, including the word CO, all over the front panel. The size of it is about 4' wide by 2' high by 4' deep. The front panel/door is pad locked. The whole thing sits on a 2" thick concrete slab which in turn is positioned directly on the ground in a homeowner's backyard.
I've got a box down the street from me that sounds just like that. I believe that's a "cross connect box." Others can verify and say what it actually does. Pic here: »www.privateline.com/OSP/crossconnectbox.jpg
[text was edited by author 2002-05-29 11:19:23] |
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RadioDoc
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Pronto Remote Terminals captured on film in the wild... 
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rjackson
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join:2002-04-02
Ringgold, GA
clubs: | reply to misiek
For more photos of RTs, DSLAMS, and other broadband ISP equipment, check out »Photos of Broadband gear |
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MacThrasher
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join:2002-04-26
Chagrin Falls, OH
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The one's I've seen in Ohio are also green. |
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jlink5
join:2001-07-15
Eastlake, OH |  reply to misiek
I posted those pics last summer(*the bottom two in Radio's post). I live in Eastlake Ohio. That was before any dsl was turned up around here. My teeth were watering for dsl back then.
jlink |
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AdamB
join:2001-01-07
Westerville, OH | reply to misiek
I've seen about a half dozen of those RadioDoc posted here around my town. I actually went looking for them after I downloaded the Excel sheet that had the addresses.
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Ralphie
High Speed Junkie
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Newark, OH | reply to misiek
Green boxes are cross connects, large tan cabinets are light span cabinets which house the dsl cards. Some of which are located under ground in huge vaults.
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armyrebel4
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join:2002-01-08
Springfield, IL
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Believe it or not, I was driving around tonight with my cousin and I saw one in Plainfield out here. They are HUGE. This one was grey, you could tell it was Ameritech because it had phone wires coming out of it. So maybe it is sooner than expected out here. Ditto it looks exactly like the one Doc posted.
Erik
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MacThrasher
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Chagrin Falls, OH
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The first one is an Ameritech closet accross the street and down the road from me. The tan one is Cleveland Electric Illuminating. The green one isn't an RT? Seems big to be a cross connect.
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jll544
join:2000-11-16
Darien, IL | The green box above is not an RT... it's just a big cross connect box. I've seen Ameritech working inside one down the street, and the box is filled with wiring blocks on both sides. |
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qwertycus
Elephant
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join:2001-04-01
Schererville, IN | reply to misiek
I don't have a picture, but what are the medium size
enclosures that have a brown perimeter frame and tan
corrugated dooors? |
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kenricrose
join:2002-01-31
Howell, MI | reply to misiek
Here is one clue that you may be looking at an RT, RT's always have an electric meter close by. |
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qwertycus
Elephant
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join:2001-04-01
Schererville, IN
| said by kenricrose:
Here is one clue that you may be looking at an RT, RT's always have an electric meter close by.
Interesting...
I have seen the above mentioned brown and tan boxes
with and without electric meters.
I suspected they might be RTs, but the real question
is... can they provision dsl from them, since they are
not lightspan cabinets? |
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MacThrasher
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Chagrin Falls, OH
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said by qwertycus:
I don't have a picture, but what are the medium size
enclosures that have a brown perimeter frame and tan
corrugated dooors?
That would be the second box, but it's two small. I know that box came in right around when I found out that DSL was available. MY CO is 4500 or so away? Coincidence?
p.s. There's a meter on the other side of the TAN box
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manx6
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join:1999-12-05
Algonquin, IL
| reply to kenricrose
said by kenricrose:
Here is one clue that you may be looking at an RT, RT's always have an electric meter close by.
He's correct. If there is no meter, then it's just a crossconnect box or terminal and not an RT. Also, just because an new RT shows up doesn't mean it's capable of delivering a DSL signal. Most new RT's are going in to carry POTS lines. At present, the number that can handle DSL is still small but growing slowly, at least in Illinois.
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Sneeks
join:2002-05-31
Cleveland, OH
| reply to misiek
Hi all... Been reading the various Ameritech messages in this forum for months. Never bothered to register - figured I'd let the experts do the typing. Couldn't take it any longer, so I registered today. Here's the deal.... I work for Ameritech; I don't work specifically on DSL, but I am involved enough with it that the Pronto guys and the FWG guys rely on me completing my work or else stuff don't get turned up.
So here's kinda how it works - at least in Ohio and more specifically in the Cleveland area where I'm located. All Ameritech CO's have DSL Capability. They use a DSLAM in the CO which'll provide DSL for x amount of distance as the cable runs. I think it's currently somewhere about 12,000 ft.
Some selected offices are "Pronto" offices. These have a piece of equipment in the CO called an OCD (Optical Coupling Device) which works with another piece of equipment in the CO (called a LiteSpan) that extends the range of DSL from the CO to the customer.
The LiteSpan is also located in the CO and can have up to 6 remote terminals (RT's) out in the field. These RT's can be placed in various enclosures... a customer's premises; an RT cabinet (above ground) or under ground in what is called a Controlled Environmental Vault (CEV). Think of these RT's as "mini-CO's". They are effectively bringing the CO closer to the customer which increases the distance for DSL capabilities.
Note that not all RT's can do DSL. The CO MUST have an OCD for an RT to be DSL Capable. And only a select number of CO's currently have OCD's. As of today, no more offices in Ohio are scheduled to be deployed as Pronto offices for the rest of this year, but this can change. We weren't going to add any more last year in Ohio, but then there was a pissing match going on in Illinois and the rest of the region ended up getting Illinois' OCD's.
Soooo... that being said, comments on the JPG's in this thread. Manx's attachment - yes this is an RT. And what is shown inside is a LiteSpan RT. DSL-Capable? Maybe - depends on the office (If it has an OCD). RadioDoc's JPG's. Again these are all RT's - DSL-Capable? Maybe; again, depends on the office. There are like three different sizes of RT's - don't remember exact dimensions. I used to set them on the pads long ago and all I remember now is that they are heavy. In Ohio, they are tan or beige - whatever color you want to call them and they have the AC power supply nearby which supplies power to the batteries inside (-48V).
Macthrasher Digital Productions' first JPG - this is a cross-connect box. This is another animal. Just a box where connections are made from the CO side to the customers' side...CO side being commonly referred to as the "underground pair" and the customer side being known as the "airial pair". Technically, these can have DSL capable lines IF the customer is close enough to the CO by using the DSLAM in the CO. There's like 3 or so different versions of these boxes being used.
Sorry this is so long (my first post), but I wanted to dispell some of the FUD's I was reading here in the forum. And also sorry about not being able to give more specific info...we seem to be "specialists" in our job classifications and are not really trained in the realms beyond the scope of our jobs. But with me working out in the field (actually I work in the CO's and outside in the field) I can give you all a little bit of insight on how it all works. And no, my work does not involve any contact with customers. |
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toolkit
join:2001-01-16
Crystal Lake, IL | Your first post is a good one. Thumbs up from me. Welcome to the fun house! |
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