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KoolMoe
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Re: Before the *nix and mac users come out...
IMO, it comes down to making more of an effort to release stable code before the desire to 'make money'. Of course, that's the company's overall goal, right? To make money! How could it not be when you're public in this society?
BUT it still needs to be tempered. If nothing else, perhaps this 'commitment to security' will give them a break when they keep pushing back release dates for their software. OR maybe they'll build an extra month or so for specific 'hole tests' into the schedule next time round...
Windows 98 was released with HOW many bugs? 23,000? And how many of these recent exploits are due to buffer overflows? Ya think they'd start being a little more focused on such holes at some point.
I agree overall, that MS is a huge target, but they're not blameless. Sloppy code is sloppy code.
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| Ok, lets examine this.
Windows 95 was created half assed, I will agree to that. However, lets look at Windows 98. Win98 was released to 200,000 beta testers. Win2k was released to over a million. You give all these copies away and many people install the OS and report the bugs. However, what happens when it is released to 20x more people? You think all bugs are going to be found in a beta test? How many beta tests are needed?
I guess my question to you is, do you believe there is any software out there today that doesn't have holes or exploits in it? I can't think of a single one. Don't get me wrong here, I am not saying Microsoft should just release a product carelessly. What I am saying is you can beta test all you want, and with the hundreds of thousands of different hardware combinations you are still going to run into problems. That still doesn't count in the hacker and cracker community who constantly look for exploits and such.
Sorry, I don't buy the whole sloppy code arguement. Any popular OS would be nailed with similar problems...which is why you have patches.
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