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boogie74
join:2001-06-19
Neenah, WI
clubs:
| reply to NOVA_Guy
Re: What are the terms of the contract?
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If I've paid for service that allows me to download up to 1 gigabyte of information per month on my service plan, and I only download 500 megabytes, why shouldn't I be able to share my service with my next door neighbor who only wants to use up 100 megabytes by checking his email every 5 minutes? Simply because a monopoly says I can't? That's BS, and we both know it.
While I can understand the sentiment of your statements, the fact does remain that you AGREED to the terms and conditions of service which clearly PROHIBIT this behavior- whether or not you paid for it is at that point a moot point.
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BrianDamage
We Are The Hounds From Hell
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join:2001-08-14
Rowlett, TX
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| I see the "legalese" point of view.
I suggest that people more closely read terms of service before signing on.
But, specific clarification of the vagueness of these same terms of service would also serve to clear a lot of this mess up before it even starts.
Consumer protections need to be preserved, also.
Also, something these carriers should realize also is that when you lock in consumers to long contracts for broadband or any other service, then it becomes the workable option for longer periods, thereby necessitating the need for the service to be expandable.
If a customer wishes to network off of the connection, he should not be penalized.
But, the forces at work here are such that because competition is such a a far cry from what it was even a year ago, with fewer and fewer providers, means that the ones that remain see that they can impose these regulations on customers that they would not have been able to before because too much competition exists.
So I say, when competition, and I mean true competition, is allowed (legislatively and politically) to make a real comeback, you will see these crazy restrictions much more specific and less prohibitive in content.
Current atmosphere in the good ol' US of A makes all of this possible.
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NGOwner
join:2000-11-21
Leawood, KS
| said by BrianDamage:
I see the "legalese" point of view.
I suggest that people more closely read terms of service before signing on.
How much clearer does it need to be?
5. Subscriber Conduct.
(a) The ISP Service as offered and provided under this Agreement is a residential service offered for personal, non-commercial use only. Subscriber will not resell or redistribute (whether for a fee or otherwise) the ISP Service, or any portion thereof, or otherwise charge others to use the ISP Service, or any portion thereof. Subscriber agrees not to use the ISP Service for operation as an internet service provider, for the hosting of websites (other than as expressly permitted as part of the ISP Service) or for any enterprise purpose whether or not the enterprise is directed toward making a profit.
Source: »help.twcable.com/html/twc_sub_agreement.html
If you are going to set up a Wi-Fi network, you better make damn sure that you are the only one able to access it.
[NG]Owner
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BrianDamage
We Are The Hounds From Hell
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join:2001-08-14
Rowlett, TX
clubs:
| That's pretty clear.
That's also why I said that folks should actually read the TOS before signing on.
However, a point I was trying to make is that this TOS for example, is far too restrictive as to how the service is used.
But, because of lack of choices, people will sign on and then abuse the service sometimes, even if the provider has suffered no real repercussions from it, which in this case, they haven't.
Choice an competition would help to put a real dent in this kind of behavior, because if there was real competition, then companies are far less likely to have such restrictive provisions in their TOS in order to lure the most customers.
This is just another effect of monopoly of the broadband market, but I am not trying to cast off those who would just steal anyway.
Some people will always steal things.
These corporations are not beyond it either. I think this case is still mostly about greed and nothing else.
[text was edited by author 2002-07-01 17:00:26] | |
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