Anon
| 5660 lockups - memory problem?
I've just found a difference between my non-crashing 5260/5660 and a crashing 5260/5660.
The crashing ones seem to only have about half as much memory. This also explains why they can't downgrade - not enough memory to store the new image before flashing.
If this affects 'real' 5660s it would be reasonable grounds for a refund as they are clearly underspecced in this case. Efficient were trying to save money and cut the memory to the bone - they got away with it on 2.1.0 but 2.2.0 has a larger footprint and keeps running out of memory (probably as the NAPT tables increase in size dynamically).
Memory stats for a 5260/5660 without lockups:
status bytes blocks avg block max block
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current
free 9470496 23 411760 9466072
alloc 4228824 830 5094 -
cumulative
alloc 7129176 60775 117 -
Memory stats for a 5260/5660 with lockups:
status bytes blocks avg block max block
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current
free 1059344 15 70622 1057832
alloc 4251368 946 4494 -
cumulative
alloc 5129400 11809 434 -
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MrCornell
join:2000-04-06
Seattle, WA
clubs: |  how do you check your memory status?
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Anon
| set priv
<password> (I'll email this to you)
shell
memShow
logout (to leave the shell)
[text was edited by author 2001-01-21 20:17:05] |
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damaged
join:2000-12-25
Hallandale, FL
clubs: | Think you could message me the password too?
Thanks
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MrCornell
join:2000-04-06
Seattle, WA
clubs: | reply to Anon
thanks 
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MrCornell
join:2000-04-06
Seattle, WA
clubs: | reply to Anon
wow...i have access to other things now...
Efficient sure has hid some wierd ass stuff in their router...
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damaged
join:2000-12-25
Hallandale, FL
clubs: |  reply to Anon
Thank you much sir.
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damaged
join:2000-12-25
Hallandale, FL
clubs:
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Hey I just thought of something that may act as a bandaid since the lockups probably come after the NAPT tables fill up, I am going to write a small script in crontab and have it removes the entries every once in awhile to free up memory. I'll let you know how it goes.
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Anon
| reply to MrCornell
I know....
A ppp server? What for!!
There's also an igmp module in there... not worked out how to init that properly yet.
Plus the 64 entry NAPT limit is artificial... I crashed at about 10,000... |
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MrCornell
join:2000-04-06
Seattle, WA
clubs:
| reply to Anon
well...
status bytes blocks avg block max block
------ --------- -------- ---------- ----------
current
free 9407856 8 1175982 9407616
alloc 4291464 978 4388 -
cumulative
alloc 4464536 1316 3392 -
value = 0 = 0x0
i have had lockups in the past...i have even locked up bridge mode once or twice! so i don't think it has to do with the amount of memory i have in my router.
in other news, what is the GDB stub?
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damaged
join:2000-12-25
Hallandale, FL
clubs: | GDB in linux is a debugger I imagine this is based on a unix kernel of somekind so It is probably a debugger. |
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azacamis
join:2000-12-16
Singapore | reply to Anon
can I have it too?
azhar@pov.2y.net
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TransitMan
Premium,MVM
join:2000-09-05
Dayton, OH
clubs: | reply to Anon
Ok, now I'm interested. Where is this info at from the beginning. And could you send me the psswrd please.
Thanks.
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stled
join:2001-01-08
Saint Louis, MO | reply to Anon
Password also, please. sounds like we might have a whole linux box in there.
thanks |
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Sixpack3
join:2000-10-02
Torrington, CT | reply to Anon
I would also like the password for set priv.
Thanks. |
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Dzot
Huh? What?
join:2001-01-21
Austin, TX
| reply to Anon
Thanks for the INFO... the upgrade worked great :)
I like to know if I'm going to run into a memory problem or not... so, I would appreciate the password also
Question:
With NAPT enabled, is there anything else I need to worry about with regard to the firewall?
Any default settings with the 5660 that I need to worry about?
Thanks in advance |
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Sixpack3
join:2000-10-02
Torrington, CT
| reply to Anon
Re: 5660 lockups - memory problem?
"This also explains why they can't downgrade - not enough memory to store the new image before flashing"
Do you think putting the modem in bridge mode before downgrading would change the amount of free memory?
[text was edited by author 2001-01-22 02:59:00] |
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dmk11
join:2000-06-05
Portland, OR | reply to Anon
I'll figure I'll ask you now for the password before you get sick emailing it to everyone..
me too please? dmk11@yahoo.com
thanks! |
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Anon | Email 5660-password@magenta-netlogic.com for the password.
(yes I already got sick of emailing it to everyone). |
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rhardee@iname.com
@swbell.ne
| reply to Sixpack3
My two cents:
Just as Tony states, it appears that some of the versions of the 5260's with the 5660 part numbers have a minimal memory configuration (mine is the one Tony refers to in the original post). On the bottom, my 5260/5660 has no revision number, but instead has a small "Made in Mexico" barcode sticker, which might be an indicator of less memory onboard.
I have most of the problems discussed in this forum, namely "frequent lockups on large downloads" and "unable to downgrade from 2.2 firmware". I don't think the lockups are due to memory but are a bug in the 2.2 firmware.
I do believe the downgrade problem is a memory issue though since I am seeing a "malloc" error in the tracelog whenever I try to apply firmware. Just to save you some time, if you are following the instructions and are unable to downgrade, you are probabaly memory constrained (using either telnet/firmware or ftp/put and getting "File cannot be downloaded" error message).
I have tried in both bridge and router mode, and there isn't a significant difference in free memory. I have tried to disable DHCP, DNS, SNMP, RIP, etc., and still not enough free memory to apply firmware.
I will post again if I can find a reasonable solution. Otherwise, if you have my revision of the 5260/5660, you may be stuck at the 2.2 firmware (no upgrade, no downgrade).
I would ask that people post their revision numbers for the 5260/5660's that can or can't be downgraded (this seems to be a good indicator of your 5260/5660 memory config). This will help us all understand our potential problems with this upgrade, and what our options are.
True 5660 or 5260/5660?
What is your revision number?
Firmware version?
Frequent lockups on large downloads?
Able to downgrade firmware?
Other info you want to share?
Thanks,
Randy Hardee |
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