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Mike
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join:2000-09-17
Pittsburgh, PA
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reply to lvas
Re: understand what your asking for folks.

uh, do you even know what a CLEC is from that last statement?

lvas

join:2001-05-17
Glen Carbon, IL
sure a clec is a competitve local exchange carrier. I don't agree with the word "competiteve" - I think they are a reseller. "please excus the spelling"


Mike
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join:2000-09-17
Pittsburgh, PA
clubs:
  They're a reseller of their own services with their own equipment, cages, employees, and usually utilities.

The only thing the ILEC does is usually own the building and give CLECs trouble.


boogie74

join:2001-06-19
Neenah, WI
clubs:

said by Mike:
They're a reseller of their own services with their own equipment, cages, employees, and usually utilities.

The only thing the ILEC does is usually own the building and give CLECs trouble.
First we need to define a few things here. The CLEC's in question are using something called UNE-P (pronounced you-knee-pee) which is basically the ability to purchase usage of only "parts" of a network that was never designed to be broken apart to begin with. To make things worse, those in power in the regulatory agencies have decided upon how much to value these network elements and then they discounted them further- all to encourage the illusion of competition.

Many companies (not all- just many) are using this as a means to stay afloat without investing a dime in their own network elements. Basically stated, these companies are being subsidized by ILEC's.

To address the above quote, there is a bit something missing in the equation above- the ILEC's ALSO provide all outside network elements and pay for ALL upgrades and upkeep of those elements.

What these CLEC's (not all CLEC's) are doing then is complaining that they are getting headaches and hassles from the ILEC's when they place residential orders, but they seem to be gaining large business customers without any trouble at all. What these companies are trying to convince those in charge of all this is the idea that ILEC's are perfectly willing and cooperative with large business services, but with residential services, they are locking tech's out of buildings, not showing up for vender meets, having the tech's not do any work at all in the CO to complete orders, etc.

Just my .02
Wait... here's another penny- it's now .03!

Boogie


lesopp

join:2001-06-27
Land O Lakes, FL

Another Penny

said by boogie74:
the ILEC's ALSO provide all outside network elements and pay for ALL upgrades and upkeep of those elements.
Why is my phone line connected to a SLC that is probably the "oldest still in use"? (Quoted from Verizon employee working at the SLC.
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