djdanska
Premium,MVM
join:2001-04-21
Glen Ellyn, IL
clubs:
 ·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·T-Mobile US
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 ·Mediacom
·RCN CABLE
| reply to ttte838291
Re: Is attbi throttling kazaa/grokster in Sacramen
you can get kazaa lite and in the preferences, there is an option to change the incoming port.
www.k-lite.tk
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ttte838291
@wohnheime.uni-bayreu | reply to fireguy
Re: Is attbi throttling kazaa/grokster in Sacramento?
Is there an alternative to the software from "http-tunnel.com"? cause you have to pay for higher bandwith. Is there any sort of trick to get around this port-block problem? |
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Qumahlin
Never Enough Time
Premium,MVM
join:2001-10-05
united state
| reply to acidpad
said by acidpad:
ATTBI is not, nor would we, throttle your connections in the sacramento area. the lines are not dedicated so if there are too many people on a node or if the tv is under high use, your connection will be slower. also the fast track network is not good to test speeds with as it depends on the connection of the other users as well. This is not something that is in our better interest, nor is it in yours .... ATTBI - NOC
We already had a few KNOWN ATTBI techs admit they knew about the throttling test...I'll take their word over someone who is anonymous posting from thier college :P |
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tropo
@lvcm.com
| reply to JonIrenicas
Bunch - o - idiots. Kaazaa is "theoretically" intended for non-copyright materials. Cars are "theoretically" intended to be driven under the speed limit. Neither one is built to support either theory. America is a great nation and we must break all stupid laws to force our freedoms. |
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sig
Premium
join:2001-05-05
| reply to acidpad
I dunno. But this post in the security forum said that ATTBI was testing a technology to do this in a couple markets and provides a link to a program that would appear to make this possible.
»Any way around this? |
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acidpad
@utoledo.edu
| reply to heid95843
ATTBI is not, nor would we, throttle your connections in the sacramento area. the lines are not dedicated so if there are too many people on a node or if the tv is under high use, your connection will be slower. also the fast track network is not good to test speeds with as it depends on the connection of the other users as well. This is not something that is in our better interest, nor is it in yours .... ATTBI - NOC |
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Ericthorn
It only hurts when I laugh
Premium
join:2001-08-10
Paragould, AR
clubs: 
·Paragould.net
| reply to fireguy
Part of my small brain wonders if this isn't an attempt by the ISP's to avoid going to court like Verizon currently is. Basically, block 90% of us off from getting access to the P2P's used ports, which would then block off the spoofers/spyers, etc.. see where I'm going with this?
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Anon | reply to SNRreporter
I cannot believe you are complaining over Kazaa and other peer to peer programs...IRC has been trading this same stuff for years before anyone though of making a GUI for it |
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secure51502
join:2002-08-24
Citrus Heights, CA
| reply to fireguy
As you know AT&T Broadband has been throttling traffic through port 1214. However, the new version of KaZaA; Version 2.0 allows you to change incoming ports. Which means, you can increase your speed and bypass the limit.
Download Kazaa Lite "http://www.k-lite.tk" After installing the program, start it.
On the tools menu, click options. Click on the firewall tab. where it says use port "1214" for incoming connections change it to port "21". Then clear the the check box next to use port 80 as alternative for incoming connections. Thats it... your good to go. You will most definitely see an increase in your download/upload speed.
Later,
$niþe®ooT |
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samgaffer
join:2002-01-26
Granger, IN
| reply to fireguy
From an ISP's POV...
If you worked for a broadband provider even a monopoly, or you read the fine print instead of the marketing bs, you'd know that the 5%, or usually 1% use over 90% of the bandwidth cause you can't live without your porn. We have in out three lines of fine print that we will limit your bandwidth if you start hogging it. Mostly because ISPs have to oversell to survive, much less make a profit.
Not that anybody can resell cable, but DSL is a losing situation for everbody. SBC charges us $35/month for a DSL line, plus we have bandwidth and other costs. SBC steals our cutomers before they can sign a contract and offers them $29.95/month for a higher download speed. Nobody makes any fricking money on broadband.
Cable in the area was down for awhile with the @Home thing and as many as they could bought DSL. In the beginning when they had too much bandwidth allocated to gain customers, it was great. Even three-fourths of employees here have cable, only two have DSL. If you have cable in any area where you have more than one user, you know it sucks. It's one giant LAN and insecure as WLANs. Why don't we kill Bush, put someone in office who can run the country. Stop unfair business practices from monopolies and get cheap bandwidth put in everywhere. Or you script-kiddies could all wakeup and deal with it. Here, look up cyrogenics, freeze yourself until bandwidth is unlimited and free and they have a cure for idiocy. |
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JonIrenicas
join:2002-06-22
| reply to ForceInfinity
Re: Is attbi throttling kazaa/grokster in Sacramento?
said by ForceInfinity:
I'm posting as another Sacramento user of ATT BI, but I have a different (but related) problem. I was trying to send a file to a friend of mine over MSN's instant messenger. The problem was the thing errored out giving me a message that indicated that the transmission was blocked and to check my firewall settings.
Problem is I dont run a file wall, dont have a proxy or anything like that.
Got next to nowhere with the complains either. The thing is I should be able to send files to a friend through an instant messenger tool should I not (in fairness AOL IM doesn't exhibit this behavior that I'm aware of)
I can't exactly go to PACBELL because I sit at the 18000 ft mark. Just out of DSL range according to them.
FI
That's strange because if it was being throttled (like Kazaa is) it would still be able to send just be really really slow. Maybe it was your friends settings. |
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ForceInfinity
@attbi.com
| reply to error678
I'm posting as another Sacramento user of ATT BI, but I have a different (but related) problem. I was trying to send a file to a friend of mine over MSN's instant messenger. The problem was the thing errored out giving me a message that indicated that the transmission was blocked and to check my firewall settings.
Problem is I dont run a file wall, dont have a proxy or anything like that.
Got next to nowhere with the complains either. The thing is I should be able to send files to a friend through an instant messenger tool should I not (in fairness AOL IM doesn't exhibit this behavior that I'm aware of)
I can't exactly go to PACBELL because I sit at the 18000 ft mark. Just out of DSL range according to them.
FI |
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error678
join:2002-07-06
Kent, WA
| reply to mikeis2cool
Its there network and they can filter or drop whatever they
choose. Its your right not to accept that and go someplace
else. They are not a public utility and can do what they
want. Why does attbi drop netbios? because people enjoy
exploiting it. Drop the traffic and the problems go away.
Now you are talking about filesharing there could be
a large amount of bandwidth being sucked up because of it
in that area. So whats the answer? simple drop the traffic
and get rid of the problem, possibly fixing some other
problems. Is that the answer you want to hear? probably
not, but It just might be the truth. They have the right
to do what they want, its there network. If you don't like
it then go get another ISP that is not gonna care what you
do. But to them they see it as something causing problems,
so you get rid of the problem. This is just my guess and
by the way excellent way to test your theory with dialup.
-error678 |
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mikeis2cool
join:2002-08-31
Sacramento, CA
|  reply to fireguy
Is attbi throttling kazaa/grokster in Sacramento? I think so. I am not writing to try to debate this issue: I want to present my experience with this same problem (in Sacramento, using attbi cable) and I will leave it up to everyone else to draw their own conclusion.
To begin with, I was happily using Kazaa until about two-plus weeks ago, when I started getting download times that quickly diminished to practically nothing at all. I thought it was a virus, so I searched high-and-low for one to no avail. Next, I thought it was Kazaa itself. I uninstalled it and deleted all registry settings, files, and cookies associated with Kazaa -- just to be sure. I then downloaded and installed Kazaa again. I ended up with the same problem as before. I went through the same uninstall, delete, and download process again, but this time using Kazaa Lite as my installation choice... still the same problem!
I decided to investigate this problem online next. Typing in a variety of Kazaa related searches using Google, I was surprised not to find other people experiencing the same problem. I then got suspicious about my own connection, so I started searching using that criteria for answers: that is when I found this discussion. After reading everything posted, I decided to try my own experiment.
I went to »www.netzero.com and I downloaded the free connection software and set it up for my computer using a dial-up connection (phone modem). I disabled my LAN connection, logged onto NetZero, and then I started Kazaa. After I was connected, I put in a search for an audio file. Before long, I had a respectable list to choose from (while on attbi it was hit-and-miss if I got anything). I double-clicked on one of the results that had a large grouping. I checked on the "Traffic" button and found that my song downloaded with a range from 1.75 Kb/s up to 5.84 Kb/s, mostly staying at about 2.6 Kb/s until the file was completely downloaded.
I have two other friends in Sacramento, who are using attbi and Kazaa, and they are experiencing the same problem that I am (and I think most of you have). By considering the problem as a factor with incredible coincidence, and trying to use a process of elimination, I believe the problem is with attbi -- despite their protestations to the contrary! If I am wrong, then I apologize for steering anyone wrong -- and to attbi as well. If I am correct, then we all have a reason to be upset and attbi should hear about it from all of us. |
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shorto85
join:2002-04-28
Fair Oaks, CA
clubs: | reply to fireguy
The main reason people get broadband is so they can trade files... |
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Solja_Bear
join:2002-07-12
Sacramento, CA
| reply to secure51502
What is the SNR??? Sacramento News and Review? Popular maybe, but I think I have read or seen it once in my 30 years here. Are you just looking for negative users, or will you also place in this article satisfied customers? Otherwise the article is clearly biased and would mean nothing. |
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secure51502
join:2002-08-24
Citrus Heights, CA | reply to SNRreporter
I would love to speak my mind about this SNRreporter! I can be contacted at secure5150 at hotmail.com |
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secure51502
join:2002-08-24
Citrus Heights, CA | reply to SNRreporter
I would love to speak my mind about this SNRreporter! I can be contacted at secure5150@hotmail.com |
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JonIrenicas
join:2002-06-22
| reply to SNRreporter
said by SNRreporter:
It's not about that. It's about the fact that they feel at liberty to restrict content without notifying users.
I see your point but it's their network they can block whatever they want. Can they not? They don't have to garuntee that we can use any software or download anything we want. And it's up to us to decide if we want to use their service or not.
[text was edited by author 2002-08-31 01:36:32] |
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SNRreporter
join:2002-08-30
Sacramento, CA | reply to JonIrenicas
It's not about that. It's about the fact that they feel at liberty to restrict content without notifying users. |
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