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« Maybe if the FCC outlawed regular AM/FM?  
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tomkb
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Of course they'll file

>>The math doesn't paint a very pretty picture.

Boy, you got that right. They ought to repurpose that satellite for some other task if they know whats good for them.

deltapi

join:2001-04-25
Memphis, TN

I guess what disturbs me, not just in this case, but across the spectrum, is the number of financial analysts who can make or break a company, yet understand little if anything about current technologies, be it satellite radio or chip makers, or Cisco. There's no "horizon" anymore, it's "show me the money" or they're sticking a toe-tag on the company.


Harddrive
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Norwich, CT

Exactly! Its the boys on the floor down there on Wall Street that put a company in the dumps. "Lucent didn't make its numbers for 3 quarters and made the brokers look bad. Lets put them in the trash can for a couple of years. BTW, put the whole damn telcom sector with them for a while."
Its not how much money a company has, or what kind of stuff they are pushing. If the stock market wants them as a cheap stock or the opposite, they can do it in one day.
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tomkb
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Ya know, you can only cram so much crap down people throat before they figure out they don't really need it. I just can't see one good reason to ever use this service.

deltapi

join:2001-04-25
Memphis, TN
reply to Harddrive
Right on the numbers

You got it. What kind of buffer or protection does the average company have if the Lucent's, or Cisco's of the world can tank on the word of a couple of Wall Street "Analysts"??


biggbrother
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Providence, RI
reply to tomkb
Re: Of course they'll file

I'm sure the same was said when FM was introduced.... or even the Internet...


antwanp
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said by biggbrother:
I'm sure the same was said when FM was introduced.... or even the Internet...
Exactly! I'm sure if we give XM(not sirus) some time that it will turn a profit. Sirus was doomed from the start because of their lack of programming compaired to XM. As with all new technology it will be slow to take off. Look at DVD players. I knew some people that said it would never last. But look at it now. It's more popular than VHS. I say just give XM some time to settle in for the long run, and they will most likely be sucessful.
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P Ness
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XM is going to meet the numbers 350k for the year that will be $10.00 x 12 x 350,000= 42,000,000 revenue....of course they need over a million or at least start charging more....


SterlingJ85
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reply to tomkb
Sirius is now going to break even at 2 millions subs with their second generation chipset, which lower hardware subsidies from Sirius by 30% immediately. XM AFAIK is saying they need 3 million subs to break even.

Now, I don't understand where you come in saying that they have a bad programming selection. I believe it is this way... XM chose quantity in music channels, Sirius chose quality. Which would you rather have? Both have 100 channels, but Sirius has 60 commercial free music channels and XM has 71 music channels with 30 or so commercial free. The rest are made up of news, talk, entertainment, and comedy channels.
The only downside I can find in Sirius that XM beats them in is the Comedy channel. That definitely needs some work, but the music selection is fabulous. Sirius Dance Hits beat BPM by far.


brentfranks

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reply to antwanp
Regarding Sirius Programming...

By no means is sirius doomed from the start because of their programming, in fact thats what was going to keep them going. Their programming is much better, as it doesn't contain commercials. What hurt them is their second-to-market performance.

They also had significant chipset problems, thus making inventory on store shelves very low. They didn't advertise, because if they did, it would refer people to XM.


w4jle
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reply to tomkb
said by tomkb:
Ya know, you can only cram so much crap down people throat before they figure out they don't really need it. I just can't see one good reason to ever use this service.
As an over the road trucker, it provides entertainment when nothing can be picked up yo want to listen to.

Ever drove across Texas on interstate 10? If you don't speak Spanish or love Mexican music, the pickings are slim outside the large cities.
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Fred W4JLEBeaufort SC
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