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Hate those info collecting cookies? check this out

I think most of us here take our security and privacy very seriously. Thanks for those links. Have you looked into using a cookie manager like CookiePal to help deal with cookies more easily?
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-tb/gary.
"The person who says it cannot be done should not interrupt the person doing it."
Chinese Proverb

yeah, I have used similar programs.
At this point, opting out seems like a good option.
I shouldnt have to monitor incoming cookies or disable them.
Actually I think its a shame we have to opt out.
They should have to ask permission to track our web habits.

I guess if you change settings in your browser, they would have to ask. I shouldnt have to modify what I do just to avoid these nosey bastards.

Personally, I prefer to be in charge of managing my cookies instead of relying on third parties like these opt out sites. Most of them still require you have one of their cookies for your browser so it knows not to track you. I don't trust companies like Double Click enough to trust them not to really track me which is why I prefer to manage cookies myself. But ultimately whatever works best for you is what you should do.
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-tb/gary.
"The person who says it cannot be done should not interrupt the person doing it."
Chinese Proverb

I went to pick up my two grandkids at a friend's house and got talking to them about the internet. They had been on for about 3 months and have no cookie management/firewall program or any other security program except a MaCafee AV that had never been updated since theybought the computer.
Cookie Folder had 48oo+ cookies in it from some eyepopping sites.
They are now aware and have some protection.
tnm456... Unfortunately, until Microsoft get their act together with a set of options that are configurable to manage cookies the way each person wants to then we all will have to put up with having to use other programs to do the job.
I do agree with you though. Maybe that might come with the now leaked beta of IE V6.0. Hehehehe.
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John

Good for you ausnetwanderer.

I have done the same thing to help people. It is obscene how many people just don't understand what can happen. The days of carefree computing are gone and users have to take the initiative and learn about the dangers and options. Then, like TrailBlazer and tnm456, they can make informed decisions and make risk/benefit tradeoffs.

Although I have helped several people in this area, I have also had others not accept any help. They think they are fine and safe, afterall, "AOL has protection against that sort of thing" (their statement).

Sorry to go off on a tangent on a cookie thread but I wanted to give you a thumbs up.

Also tnm456 - Thanks for the opt-out links. I manage my cookies using software but I know other that like to do it your way as well.
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All that is gold does not glitter

I come from a land downunder, where, in a lot of cases we are looking at the curser moving across the screen in stunned amazement.
The people I have spoken to that just don't seem to care about the security of their systems.
You can only help someone if they want to be helped.
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John

I come from down under just like ausnetwanderer. And what he says is true. It is amazing how many people don't use a fire wall or anti spy ware programs until its to late. I spend more time helping others out these days. And do not get much time for myself on the net. I have even had to educate my family about fire walls and what they are for. Any way another much simpler and best of all FREE cookie program which gives you control of what cookies get deleted and what cookies stay. ie doubleclick.net (delete) dslreports (trusted). The program is called Cookie Wall.
I put all ad cookies in the delete side of cookie wall. You can get it from »www.analogx.com
But remember you should run anti spy ware programs as well. I use opt out from »grc.com
And Adware 4.05 from Lavasoft »www.lavasoft.de
Good luck and good hunting to keep those little spy's out of your pc's Ladies and Gents
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Been hacked before and been hacked off by being hacked. I use a firewall now. But will always be PARANOID
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What is the best way to manage cookies?

Using CookiePal, or Opt-Out.

To be honest with you I really don't like participating in those opt out options for two reasons. In most cases when you opt out they just put a different cookie in your cookie folder that tells their site not to put the tracking cookie on your computer. Once you clean your cookie file or lose that opt out cookie, then you have to go through the opt out process all over again and this can continue for ever. The other reason is that I simply don't like the idea of going to the thief and asking him not to rob me please.

We've had several discussions about this in the past and there are lots of ways to manage cookies. This discussion is going quite well but just in case I include two links to the old discussions we've had here. Perhaps you find those discussions useful.

»Hand in the Cookie Jar and

»What is best way to manage cookies?
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reply to RR Dude6
From a security perspective, most people worry about viruses and Trojans and other malicious code getting into their systems. I do too, but I'm most concerned with spyware from known and "trusted" companies. They invade our computers more often than any trojan or worm, and this is an everyday occurrence!

They sell our information, then we start getting all these phone calls or junk mail offering this or that. Congress should sign legislation that stops the abusive privacy intrusions from all these companies. It's a creepy feeling knowing that you're being tracked and that you're information is being sold. Very Orwellian.

Internet Explorer 5.5 advanced security Beta is no longer available for download, so I guess I'll install Cookie Pal or Cookie Cop and make it part of my security protocol. I see cookie managers to be just as important as my Anti virus program.
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I personally use Cookie Pal Am always amazed with my bank I deal with and their pages I went throw some of there pages and had over 2000 bad cookies on Cookie Pal of course it can get annoying to get asked to accept or reject I have it reject all of course their are some good cookies out there where you need to accept them for the pages to work but this sure opens up my eyes when you see this.Notice double click.com or net on fair amount of sites of course they are bad cookies it sure opens up my eyes seeing all the cookies that could of been stored on my computer Cookie pal does the job for me.

I use History Killer found here:
.»www.historykill.com/

30 free trial. I used it and I like it

reply to tnm456
Hello all,
I don't use the cookie opt out for the reasons mentioned.

You can set your browser to accept the good cookies you want to have (web sites you frequent and would always have to log in such as DSL)

If you use IE, when your browser is open, go to tools > internet options > security tab, and click on "trusted site" to high light it,then click on "sites" then put in the address and click "add", put as many sites in as you want following the same format, then click OK, that window disappears, then click "custom settings" and mark to allow cookies.

If you don't want certain cookies, do this from same security tab, click "restricted sites" to highlight it,then click "sites", enter the cookies that you don't want by the following method:

*.doubleclick.net

important, do not use www,etc., use *.
then click "add"
then enter the next cookie

*.doubleclick.com

then click add, when finished then click "OK", Then click "custom settings", mark to "accept no cookies"

I have a list of about 100 bad cookies that you can copy and paste to save you a lot of research, but I can't put my hand on it now and I have my 6 year old son til tonight around 8PM. I will try to locate it for you guys then...

Then I recommend highlighting "Internet", custom settings, and mark "prompt for cookies", then it will ask you before it accepts any cookies except the ones in your trusted sites.

Browser add ons (download accelerators, pop up add killers, etc.) are the main reasons that cause browser problems, I personally do not use cookie killers, etc., for this reason...

Let me know if you have any questions or if I was unclear, my son is full of energy, and I have to go....
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Inquiring minds want to know...

I have my doubleclick.net and doubleclick.com in my settings or restricted site area not to accept them.it was blocking that site before without, Cookiepal now cookie pal takes over and indicates it blocked it,Why my guess would be because Cookie Pal is intergraded or working with IE browser.

reply to JANDOENT

Cookie Pal

reply to Anon

Re: Hate those info collecting cookies? check this out

reply to tnm456
I use CookieWall by »www.analogx.com and find it extremely easy to use. It allows you to kill any cookies you want, to keep any cookies temporarily, and to keep any permanently that you would like. Configuration is very simple as well, and CookieWall does not use much of your CPU's resources.

reply to Wildcatboy
Neither do I like to give anyone the impression that I in any way regard "opt out" as being a legitimate approach to this issue. I object in every way to "opt out" schemes, whether with telemarketing, internet tracking or any other direct marketing tactic, whatever it may be. Without a legal requirement that everyone targeted for such marketing be clearly advised of their right to opt out BEFORE one single bit of information is obtained or one single contact is made, and be given a FREE, immediate, and no effort required whatsoever means of opting out, the idea is worthless fluff. Opt IN is the only acceptable system where direct marketing / demography / profiling is concerned. We have a right to expect no less, and we should send a clear message to the firms who use this tactic, Congress and the Commerce Department that we'll settle for no less. We won't patronize anyone who contacts us this way or based on this information, we won't vote for anyone who actively opposes restrictive legislation in this regard, and we won't vote for anyone who supports legislation that compromises with these parasites. In addition to the obvious annoyances, an economy based on a parasitic, virtually useless and unproductive industry, instead of technology and industry, is to build a house of cards... it will fall at the first strong wind.
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reply to RR Dude6

said by RR Dude:

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What is the best way to manage cookies?

Using CookiePal, or Opt-Out.

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