republican-creole
Search:  

 
 
   All ForumsHot TopicsGallery






how-to block ads


 
Forums » US Cable Support » Comcast » Comcast HSI » Approved Comcast Modems Modem List
Search Topic:
Uniqs:
611
Share Topic:
RSS topic:
toggle:
flat / full
normal / watch
Posting:
Comcast in Swartz Creek »
« Comcast and Everest here in the KC Area  
page: 1 · 2 · 3
AuthorAll Replies


gax2
Premium
join:2002-07-14
Philadelphia, PA

Re: Approved Comcast Modems Modem List

surfboard wee
[text was edited by author 2002-10-05 22:20:55]

percosan

join:2002-03-13
San Francisco, CA

reply to pazuzu5
Good catch.

Yes, the 4220 does support A-TDMA as defined in DOCSIS 2.0. However, CableLabs has a very strict set of rules for how a company can use "2.0" in their literature. The 4220 is certainly capable of working as a 2.0 modem on cable plants that have a CMTS that is configured to use the A-TDMA flavor of 2.0.

Peter

said by pazuzu5 See Profile:
Geez, only the SB4220 implements DOCSIS 2.0's A-TDMA. Nowhere is DOCSIS2.0 mentioned in the same sentence with SB4200/4101/4100 on Motorola's pages. One'd think if those could be used for DOCSIS 2.0, it'd be plastered all over the place by now.


pazuzu5

join:2001-06-14
King Of Prussia, PA
Geez, only the SB4220 implements DOCSIS 2.0's A-TDMA. Nowhere is DOCSIS2.0 mentioned in the same sentence with SB4200/4101/4100 on Motorola's pages. One'd think if those could be used for DOCSIS 2.0, it'd be plastered all over the place by now.

percosan

join:2002-03-13
San Francisco, CA

reply to btdude
Hi -

The SB4100 is based on the Broadcom BCM3350. This device is DOCSIS 1.0 and 1.1 only. As I mentioned in my previous posting, this chip lacks the support of A-TDMA and S-CDMA (the new upstream elements added in the 2.0 spec). Included below is the URL to the BRCM3350 information page. I have also included the URL to the SB4100 info page for your review. The relevant Broadcom based device necessary to support DOCSIS 2.0 is the 3348, which is not yet in a certified product.

Peter

»www.broadcom.com/products/3350.html
»www.gi.com/modem/SB4100.pdf

said by btdude See Profile:
said by percosan See Profile:
This is an incorrect statement. The SB4100 can NOT be upgraded to DOCSIS 2.0. This modem is based on silicon that does not implement either of the new upstream technologies required (A-TDMA or S-CDMA).

Peter

said by btdude See Profile:
Here is what I DO know. SB4100 Modems ARE DOCSIS 2.0 READY. That means that WHEN Comcast decides to incorporate the new 2.0 standard, (from what I understand) our modems will be provided the firmware from Comcast. My only concern about the Motorola people discontinuing the SB4100 was my concern for lack of parts, tweaks, and stuff. NOw, as to whether Comcast is DOCSIS 1.0 ready, correct me if I am wrong, but I do believe that they would HAVE to be at the 1.0 standard, otherwise none of our modems would work at all.

I respectfully disagree. The Motorola customer service people told me this. The 4100 IS DOCSIS 2.0 ready. The modem itself says that right on the box. Please show me why you are not in agreement with this.


btdude

join:2002-01-28
Manassas, VA

reply to percosan
said by percosan See Profile:
This is an incorrect statement. The SB4100 can NOT be upgraded to DOCSIS 2.0. This modem is based on silicon that does not implement either of the new upstream technologies required (A-TDMA or S-CDMA).

Peter

said by btdude See Profile:
Here is what I DO know. SB4100 Modems ARE DOCSIS 2.0 READY. That means that WHEN Comcast decides to incorporate the new 2.0 standard, (from what I understand) our modems will be provided the firmware from Comcast. My only concern about the Motorola people discontinuing the SB4100 was my concern for lack of parts, tweaks, and stuff. NOw, as to whether Comcast is DOCSIS 1.0 ready, correct me if I am wrong, but I do believe that they would HAVE to be at the 1.0 standard, otherwise none of our modems would work at all.

I respectfully disagree. The Motorola customer service people told me this. The 4100 IS DOCSIS 2.0 ready. The modem itself says that right on the box. Please show me why you are not in agreement with this.

percosan

join:2002-03-13
San Francisco, CA

reply to btdude
This is an incorrect statement. The SB4100 can NOT be upgraded to DOCSIS 2.0. This modem is based on silicon that does not implement either of the new upstream technologies required (A-TDMA or S-CDMA).

Peter

said by btdude See Profile:
Here is what I DO know. SB4100 Modems ARE DOCSIS 2.0 READY. That means that WHEN Comcast decides to incorporate the new 2.0 standard, (from what I understand) our modems will be provided the firmware from Comcast. My only concern about the Motorola people discontinuing the SB4100 was my concern for lack of parts, tweaks, and stuff. NOw, as to whether Comcast is DOCSIS 1.0 ready, correct me if I am wrong, but I do believe that they would HAVE to be at the 1.0 standard, otherwise none of our modems would work at all.


beerbum
Premium
join:2000-05-06

reply to Tabasco Joe
nevermind
[text was edited by author 2002-09-21 00:38:48]


mbernste
Boosted
Premium,MVM
join:2001-06-30
Piscataway, NJ
·Comcast
·Optimum Online

reply to btdude
said by btdude:
NOw, as to whether Comcast is DOCSIS 1.0 ready, correct me if I am wrong, but I do believe that they would HAVE to be at the 1.0 standard, otherwise none of our modems would work at all.
Comcast is currently at DOCSIS 1.0. They will move to 1.1 when VoIP is rolled out. You'll know you are on 1.1 when either a) You get a new firmware or b)VoIP becomes available in your area.
--
Visit and support DSLR/BBR on irc at irc.zerolimit.net #BBR Come on and chat!


Tabasco Joe

@motorola.com
reply to Teriwyn
Interesting the internal page doesn't show it as discontinued but the factory says they don't build em any more. Thanks for the link.


btdude

join:2002-01-28
Manassas, VA

reply to mbernste
Here is what I DO know. SB4100 Modems ARE DOCSIS 2.0 READY. That means that WHEN Comcast decides to incorporate the new 2.0 standard, (from what I understand) our modems will be provided the firmware from Comcast. My only concern about the Motorola people discontinuing the SB4100 was my concern for lack of parts, tweaks, and stuff. NOw, as to whether Comcast is DOCSIS 1.0 ready, correct me if I am wrong, but I do believe that they would HAVE to be at the 1.0 standard, otherwise none of our modems would work at all.


mbernste
Boosted
Premium,MVM
join:2001-06-30
Piscataway, NJ
·Comcast
·Optimum Online

reply to Qumahlin
One other thing. CableLabs haven't even come out with a DOCSIS 2.0 specification yet, so DOCSIS 2.0 doesn't even exist! All of the modems on the list can be upgraded to DOCSIS 1.1, the Terayon and a couple of the Motorolas meet the proposed specs for 2.0. Years from now when Comcast decides to go to 2.0, then an upgrade for some would be necessary, just like it is for us ex-CyberSUFR's.
--
Visit and support DSLR/BBR on irc at irc.zerolimit.net #BBR Come on and chat!


Qumahlin
Never Enough Time
Premium,MVM
join:2001-10-05
united state

reply to bulldog5
said by bulldog5:
No they mean DOCIS 2.0. Increased upload speeds, etc. I have conformed and reconfirmed this with COmcast Modem Upgrade dept. DOCSIS 2.0 to be implemented on Sept 30.
Um comcast isn't offering increased uploads or any docsis 2.0 features. As someone stated comcast is not even docsis 1.1 and 90% of the modems out there are NOT 2.0 compliant

They are only cutting service to NON docsis modems..don't spread info that is false thanks


pazuzu5

join:2001-06-14
King Of Prussia, PA

Yeah right. Comcast isn't even DOCSIS 1.1 yet. How are they gonna all of a sudden jump to 2.0? Show me an average cm customer who's actually seen a SB4220, let alone using one. FYI, none of the popular SurfBoards (4200, 4100) are DOCSIS 2.0 ready (go read their prod specs if you don't believe me). Unless Comcast wants to piss off a whole bunch of its customers who purchased their own modems, DOCSIS 2.0 is not gonna happen any time soon, certainly not by 9/30.

Samandy

join:2002-07-08
Potomac, MD
OK, you have my attention. I own my SB4100, and I do not think it is DOCSIS 2 compliant. Does that mean I have a problem in a couple of weeks?

bulldog5

join:2002-03-05
Owings Mills, MD
reply to Qumahlin
No they mean DOCIS 2.0. Increased upload speeds, etc. I have conformed and reconfirmed this with COmcast Modem Upgrade dept. DOCSIS 2.0 to be implemented on Sept 30.


Qumahlin
Never Enough Time
Premium,MVM
join:2001-10-05
united state
bulldog. They mean docsis. Not docsis 2. gotta remember who you are talking to when talking to comcast heheh

bulldog5

join:2002-03-05
Owings Mills, MD

I just received my new DOCSIS 2 modem from Comcast. No major problems but they told me that if any modems are not DOCSIS 2 compatible, they won't work after Sept 30. Is this possible? For instance, they say that no Linksys Modems are DOCSIS 2.0 compatible. Anybody have any info on this. Thanks.


Teriwyn
Neko Girl
Premium
join:2002-06-06
Germantown, MD

»www.gi.com/noflash/surfboard.html
(Accessed by www.motorola.com > "Products and Services" > "Cable modems" > "Motorola SURFboard® Cable Modems")

This location does list the 4100 as a discontinued model.


Tabasco Joe

@motorola.com
reply to btdude
I didn't see anything on the WEB page about the 4100 being discontinued. Even if it was I wouldn't be worrying about firmware support going away. There are millions of them out there.

sunman9

join:2002-09-13
Nashville, TN

reply to btdude
MY Toshiba pcx1100u works fine when it's hooked directly to the pc but I can't get to work throgh my linksys BEFSR41 V.2 Router. Linksys tech support says they have issues with this modem. If I want to use their Router I have to install a Hub between the moden and router.

Anybody else have this problem.
Thread is
Forums » US Cable Support » Comcast » Comcast HSIComcast in Swartz Creek »
« Comcast and Everest here in the KC Area  
page: 1 · 2 · 3


Thursday, 10-Dec 01:21:17 Terms of Use | Privacy Policy | Hosting by www.nac.net - DSL,Hosting & Co-lo | feedback | contact
over 10 years online! © 1999-2009 dslreports.com.
page compression OFF
Most commented news this week
· [200] Sprint Sued For Distracted Driving Death
· [109] AT&T Launching New 24 Mbps U-Verse Tier
· [82] 3G Network Test Says AT&T Is Tops
· [72] Mediacom Unveils 105 Mbps Pricing
· [66] Sprint Poised For A Turnaround?
· [66] WPA Cracker: Test WPA-PSK Networks In 20 Minutes
· [66] AT&T Hints At Usage-Based iPhone Data Pricing
· [51] The Future Of Wi-Fi Is Bright
· [47] Site Leaks Yahoo, Verizon Fed Data Share Pricing
· [44] Microwaving Your Innards Is Not 'Extreme'
Most people now reading
· Hot Girl falls face first down stairs [56k Lookout (Broadband Heavy)]
· Windows 7 boot manager editing questions [Microsoft Help]
· Cross Server Dungeon Experience [World of Warcraft]
· Adobe Flash Player version 10.0.42.34 [Security]
· 3.x Feral Druid - Bear Tanking Guide [World of Warcraft]
· Official "Invite" thread Part 3 - ALL INVITES GO HERE ! [Filesharing Software]
· ICC Strats??? [World of Warcraft]
· MagicJack Error Broken Storage [MagicJack]
· Need some electrical advice - one circuit on two fuses? [Home Repair & Improvement]