pepperhead
join:2001-10-18
Bowling Green, KY
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Re: The MPAA has more of a beef
That's how much they were going to give her. They more than likely thought they could get at least twice that back. But she had a mental breakdown, she is pop and she has been around for quite some time. The public had moved on to the new flavor of the month. The record company over paid and decided to cut their losses and pay her to get rid of her contract. And this wasn't a one cd deal either.
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pepperhead
join:2001-10-18
Bowling Green, KY
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said by SRFireside  :
The RIAA says the costs of the CD reflect the marketing overhead. BAH!! The Monsters Inc. DVD has had TV commercials run nationwide as well as huge displays in the stores and all that other promotional stuff and they aren't overcharging for their product.
They love to say that. What about the CD the don't advertise? It not my fault they have spend all this money pumping up talentless artist that look good.
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Start selling CD's at about $10 or less and you will see unit sales go up, up, up.
"Exactly Odo Quasi Modo" - John Prine
They don't even have to go that low for me to start buying them again. It would be nice. But till then my dollars are going to DVD's.
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SRFireside
join:2001-01-19
Houston, TX
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Monsters Inc.'s production budget was $115 million. A tad higher than Mariah Carey, and she is one of the rare exceptions in regards to production costs. Most albums have a pretty low production budget all things considered. I would say the cost to make an album would be less than one million dollars in regards to standard artist advances, engineering and studio time, mastering and glass master pressing, art design, etc. Plus you don't see television commercials all over the place for all of the label artists nor do you see the kind of advertising the film industry does. I believe these and other considerations should balance out the comparison between movie options and CD options. |
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Count Hogula$
Notorious Dog
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join:2002-06-19
Corona, CA | reply to luckylar
Look at Mariah Carey...$40 million contract...most movies cost about $40M. |
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luckylar
join:2002-01-29
Hixson, TN
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said by Count Hogula$ :
Because CD revenue is nearly the sole source of revenue for record labels. Monster's Inc. had a world wide box office showing, plus DVD rights (including rental rights), plus PPV rights, plus CATV rights plus off-air TV rights.
That's a lot of sources of income, versus CD's having some merchandising, tours and CD sales...that's pretty much it.
Your point is made. BUT, how much was spent making the movie compared to the making of the CD? |
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Count Hogula$
Notorious Dog
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join:2002-06-19
Corona, CA
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said by Pirate515 :
said by Count Hogula$ :
Unlike music CD's movies on DVD are IMHO worth the money.
Especially when you see the following picture at your local music/movie store:
"Harry Potter" DVD .......... $15
"Harry Potter" soundtrack ... $19
DeepdiscountCD has the HP&SS CD soundtrack for under $12 new including shipping. Most people complaining about CD prices don't shop...but even at $12...CD's are a rip compared to movies.
$19 is list for the CD like the DVD list is $27...but like DVDs, CDs can be had cheap with a little shopping effort.
What it does make you wonder is who is really making the money? Record labels...doesn't look like it. Retailers look like they're getting the discs for a steal then ripping people for them.
I would be interested in seeing what the wholesale prices are for new release CD's like Feminem.
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Count Hogula$
Notorious Dog
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join:2002-06-19
Corona, CA
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Because CD revenue is nearly the sole source of revenue for record labels. Monster's Inc. had a world wide box office showing, plus DVD rights (including rental rights), plus PPV rights, plus CATV rights plus off-air TV rights.
That's a lot of sources of income, versus CD's having some merchandising, tours and CD sales...that's pretty much it.
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SRFireside
join:2001-01-19
Houston, TX
| reply to Count Hogula$
I have a prime example of that Hog. Just today I was at my local grocery store and I saw Monsters Inc. on sale for $14.99. This is for the special edition DVD mind you, not some featureless DVD or VHS product. $15 for a newly released DVD with all the goodies we love to get in DVD's. This was a major blockbuster in the theatres too. Not like the multitudes of Killer Klowns from Outer Space DVD's I see at Best Buy for $10 a pop.
What I can't fathom is how the record industry can continue to release audio CD's at prices just as high as Monsters Inc., a movie with video, audio, and extra features? The RIAA says the costs of the CD reflect the marketing overhead. BAH!! The Monsters Inc. DVD has had TV commercials run nationwide as well as huge displays in the stores and all that other promotional stuff and they aren't overcharging for their product. The only thing that is hurting the music industry is the industry leaders themselves. Start making CD's with extra features in them so people will WANT to buy them. Start selling CD's at about $10 or less and you will see unit sales go up, up, up.
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Pirate515
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join:2001-01-22
Brooklyn, NY
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said by Count Hogula$ :
Unlike music CD's movies on DVD are IMHO worth the money.
Especially when you see the following picture at your local music/movie store:
"Harry Potter" DVD .......... $15
"Harry Potter" soundtrack ... $19
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stickfigure
join:2002-06-11
El Cajon, CA
| reply to Count Hogula$
Have to agree with you on this. Funny thing is, most of the people I know that download a movie buy it on DVD cause they want all the extra stuff that comes on the disc.
said by count hogula:
Don't wait 12 months to release the movie on video when it's been long dead at the box office.
think thats a good point. a lot of people will download it just because it's not in a video store or available for purchase |
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Count Hogula$
Notorious Dog
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join:2002-06-19
Corona, CA
| Unlink music CD's movies on DVD are IMHO worth the money. People are just impatient. If DVD's were released sooner I imagine that movie piracy would be lessened. Face it, when you can get virutally any movie at deepdiscountdvd or another retailer for under $18 including freight...that's a reasonable price point and one that's hard to beat.
Don't wait 12 months to release the movie on video when it's been long dead at the box office.
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