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timecop1111

@NE.JP

reply to Count Hogula$
Re: Why bother

Dude. When you bash "shitty american DSL", always remember about other countries. Japan, for example, with its overpriced and non-existent coverage. Hell, Nome, Alaska probably has better broadband than majority of japs.
Entire country is stuck on 64k ISDN hahahaha, in 2003.


Michael S

@bradea.com
Dude, I live in Tokyo and I got 12MBit/s ADSL for about $25/month. So.


ijin

@co.jp

reply to timecop1111
Umm...

12MBps ADSL has been available here in Japan for a while now for the price of roughly $20US/month. For $60US, you could even get FTTH (Fiber to the Home) - 100Mbps (although in practice, you only get about 40Mbps, but symmetrically). Nowadays, only the rural areas of Japan aren't covered by broadband. Perhaps you should pay attention to current events since you happen to live there (based on your domain).


TimeOut42

@swbell.ne
reply to timecop1111
My father lives in southern Mexico and has DSL at 256/128. It's a town that is smaller than many US cities that don't have DSL yet.


Count Hogula$
Notorious Dog
Premium
join:2002-06-19
Corona, CA

reply to timecop1111
said by timecop1111:
Dude. When you bash "shitty american DSL", always remember about other countries. Japan, for example, with its overpriced and non-existent coverage. Hell, Nome, Alaska probably has better broadband than majority of japs.
Entire country is stuck on 64k ISDN hahahaha, in 2003.

Nice fiction guy. Other people from those countries report differently.
--
The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. -Thomas Jefferson


NanneBooBoo

@opera.com

reply to timecop1111
I'm an American which has experienced both U.S. and Norway. I had great cable modem access in Clearwater, FL.. well until the network saturated and my original 300K bytes/sec downloads rarely ever were seen. Instead I came to expect maybe 30K bytes/sec.
Here in Norway, although deployment is a bit slow in some areas, government regulations require 98% or better coverage on all technologies from the Telco. This means that even though at the moment only 50% (estimated by me) can get up to 1024/256, within 2 years, 98% of the country will be able to get at least that much.
I personally receive 1024/512 for approximately $60 monthly which is about the same as $48/month + norwegian taxes.
Remember, this is Norway a fairly large country (california sized and mountainous) with a spread out small population (4.5 million). If they can do it, it's terribly pathetic that it isn't being done in the U.S..


Ramone

@co.uk
reply to Count Hogula$
maybe he should have said UK and not Japan...where we have only just started having a 'reasonable' coverage with 0.5 mb ADSL!


BogusName

@sympatico.ca

from:
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reply to NanneBooBoo
In Norway (and several other countries), it's about getting technology to the people that want it.

In the US, it's ENTIRELY about fighting over who'll make the money and the people be damned.


chuq

@riv-eres.charterpipe


from:
Count Hogula$ See Profile

"In the US, it's ENTIRELY about fighting over who'll make the money and the people be damned."

You forgot to mention about the cable & telcos giving us big marketing hand jobs all the while to make us feel like we're getting the best deal in the world. If at least one carrier got a damn clue and put at least half of what they spend on marketing into REAL customer service, equipment, and a more than half-assed attempt at building a network then I bet they'd do quite well for themselves. But that's what common sense would dictate. All those genius telco execs with their MBAs and that business-speak alien language will tell you otherwise. Swell.


Count Hogula$
Notorious Dog
Premium
join:2002-06-19
Corona, CA


Excellent point Chug;

It is amazing how ATTB advertises on major network outlets here in LA when they have very little service area here...and even less service area serving ATTBi. You would think they would just do direct mail and call it done...directly targeting the homes that they can service. Telling me about all these great services like Telephony while not offering it doesn't do much good. And really...what's the point. It's like our local electric company...Edison International. They even have Anaheim Angels Stadium named after them (Edison Field of Anaheim). All the while you ask...why does an electricity monopoly need to advertise...it's not like we have a choice.
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The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. -Thomas Jefferson

[text was edited by author 2002-12-06 14:35:45]


Anonymous_Alaska

@gci.net
reply to timecop1111
Yeah, Nome does.

It's got a COM21 based Cable-modem system.. Highest speeds are 1024K.

The disadvantage is that Internet traffic is delivered via Satellite, so latency is horrible. Gaming is impossible. Web surfing is fine, though.
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