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I need to find the easiest Virus Protection & Firewall solution for some family members. They currently have cable modem connection with no protection at all. They are not familiar on how to configure this stuff. What is the simplest solution that you can think of that can be installed and not fussed with again?
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 John2gQui Tacet ConsentitPremium join:2001-08-10 England | said by Sprinkle Head: All -
I need to find the easiest Virus Protection & Firewall solution for some family members. They currently have cable modem connection with no protection at all. They are not familiar on how to configure this stuff. What is the simplest solution that you can think of that can be installed and not fussed with again?
Thanks in advance
For a firewall: ZoneAlarm Free from ZoneLabs.com, but the ZA Pro is a better product, but you have to pay for it. It will pay to check out their site, as they often have special offers on bundled software. -- All the electrons used in this post have been recycled |
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 HutchPremium join:2000-10-14 australia Reviews:
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| reply to Sprinkle Head I agree with John2g. Zone Alarm is a good free firewall. Which is easy ti set up and run.
Try AVG for a free Antivirus. AVG is Free. »www.grisoft.com
The only other AV i can recommend is NAV2003. NAV is not free. »www.symantec.com -- *TeamZ*Member [text was edited by author 2002-12-28 08:00:33] |
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 John2gQui Tacet ConsentitPremium join:2001-08-10 England | reply to Sprinkle Head said by Sprinkle Head: All -
I need to find the easiest Virus Protection & Firewall solution for some family members. They currently have cable modem connection with no protection at all. They are not familiar on how to configure this stuff. What is the simplest solution that you can think of that can be installed and not fussed with again?
Thanks in advance
Norton Anti Virus is the preferred choice of most members here. If you can find it NAV 2002 is very good. I have tried NAV 2003 and didn't see any extra merit in it. -- All the electrons used in this post have been recycled |
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 | reply to Sprinkle Head This thread contains excellent advice for someone trying to "fix" a simple firewall and anti-virus program for computer users as described in your post...been there and done that...Norton 2002 or 2003 Anti-Virus (only - no suites, firewalls, etc.) plus one of the free firewalls would be a good way to go. Once the programs are configured it's an occasional point and click to help them keep the system safe...
BTW, they might be better off to upgrade to WIN XP but that might not be an option.
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 | reply to Sprinkle Head One of the great things about these products is the number that are available. The difficulty is the selection of the ones that suit the needs of the user. To make that selection easier, there are sites you can go to that will help in the decision making and I would suggest a visit to one or two of those as well as the top recommendations given here. This site is probably one of the best easy to follow guides for what you are after and it is run by a member here. Check out 'Free Tools' as well as the AntiVirus and Firewall pages. -- John  |
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 | reply to Sprinkle Head Hi Sprinkle Head,
If you want something free ZA or Sygate both make pretty easy to use free firewalls. ZA maybe a little easier if you have never used a FW before.
As for anti-virus, don't let all the postive NAV posts lead you astray, it's not a reflection of how good that product is but rather that most of the folks posting here are in the US and here in the States we are for the most part an one anti-virus country. It's amazing how biased and knee jerk people are about recommending that product. You would think we were all receiving a check in the mail from Symantec.
That said it would be an ok choice, better than a lot but I wouldn't trust Norton to guard my coin purse much less my PC. Why? Because of the company's stance on privacy and cooperation with the FBI »www.techtv.com/cybercrime/privac···,00.html »www.politechbot.com/p-02851.html
I would recommend NOD32 for a new user (Kasperky KAV 4 is good as well, but it's a bit more complicated to use). It's simple, ease to use, has the best test ratings of any personal AV product, and has a friendly and helpful forum for anyone that needs help. Links:
»www.nod32.com.au/ »www.wilderssecurity.com/index.php?board=35
Here is a good source for info and tests of AV programs. They run tests multipule times a year and have ratings back to 1998 on all the major products out there.
By company »www.virusbtn.com/vb100/archives/products.xml
By OS »www.virusbtn.com/vb100/archives/tests.xml
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 | AVG Antivirus for free. www.grisoft.com and zone alarm also free www.zonelabs.com efective and cheap, and remember a firewall is as good as the person who is configuring it. -- Its not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog.-My history teacher |
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 Zhen-XjellProlific BunnyPremium,VIP,ExMod 2001-04 join:2000-10-08 Bordentown, NJ | reply to Sprinkle Head Try looking into Gladiator too. You can download it here. Description:
Gladiator AntiVirus GAV is a professional virusscanner. GAV is designed to detect and identify known:
Viruses, BAT-Viruses, HLLx-Viruses, I-Worms, IRC-Worms, mIRC-Worms, IIS-Worms, Trojans, Trojan-Notifier, Trojan-Dropper, Trojan-Downloaders, Backdoors, Unix Trojans/Backdoors, VBS Viruses/Backdoors, General Office Macro Viruses, Word Macro Viruses, Excel Macro Virures within files, boot-sectors, main-boot-records, partition-tables and memory.
You can use GAV for scanning all your floppy-disks, harddisks, CD-Roms and network-drives.
Note: GAV IS STILL IN THE ALPHA PHASE OF DEVELOPMENT!
GAV works on all Windows Platforms. -- Computer Cops | My Journal |
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 hayc59Im Your HuckleberryPremium join:2001-02-26 David R.I.P. kudos:20 Reviews:
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| reply to Sprinkle Head »www.agnitum.com/products/outpost/ Give OutPost a Try...... »www.agnitum.com/forum/index.php?s= and they have an awesome forum for support!! you will be happy -- Proud Owner of OutPost Pro |
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 | said by hayc59: »www.agnitum.com/products/outpost/ Give OutPost a Try...... »www.agnitum.com/forum/index.php?s= and they have an awesome forum for support!! you will be happy
Good point, forgot that OutPost had a free version. The Pro version is pretty easy to use and has the best forum for help and advice. |
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 | reply to Hutch said by Hutch:
Try AVG for a free Antivirus. AVG is Free. »www.grisoft.com
AVG is free for a reason. I wouldn't recommend it. Check out this link at AVB. AVG hasn't passed a test since Feb. of 2000 and then only under DOS. None of the Windows versions have ever passed. »www.virusbtn.com/vb100/archives/···?avg.xml
AV software is just one of those things you have to pay for. There are some reasonable FW solutions such as those mentioned or for those wiling to Kerio Personal FW. But AV just is too high maintaince for free to be anything worth installing. »www.kerio.com/us/kpf_home.html |
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 | said by Luthorcrow: said by Hutch:
Try AVG for a free Antivirus. AVG is Free. »www.grisoft.com
AVG is free for a reason. I wouldn't recommend it. Check out this link at AVB. AVG hasn't passed a test since Feb. of 2000 and then only under DOS. None of the Windows versions have ever passed. »www.virusbtn.com/vb100/archives/···?avg.xml
The only thing that is missing are the reasons for the (?)failure(?) of AVG and the VB 100 tests. I really don't think it's fair to lay down a judgement without access to the reasons, but then, I am an AVG user and trust it as my AV program.
To just say a program has failed without publishing the facts to back the claim is not all that acceptable IMHO. -- John  |
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 | said by Ausnetwanderer: The only thing that is missing are the reasons for the (?)failure(?) of AVG and the VB 100 tests. I really don't think it's fair to lay down a judgement without access to the reasons, but then, I am an AVG user and trust it as my AV program.
To just say a program has failed without publishing the facts to back the claim is not all that acceptable IMHO.
Well, you are right and you are wrong. I am not quick to judge an app, but let's get to your response. First, they do have a page that explains what a 100% VB means, how they test, and how an app can fail to pass. The link to that page is here: »www.virusbtn.com/vb100/about/100···dure.xml
This is more to it but the basics are that they only use real wild viruses for their tests, the AV app has to catch all of the tested wild viruses and have no false alarms--hince the 100%. The theory is that a false alarm is as bad as an actual alarm. Each app is given up to three complete tests on two seperate PCs before it is failed. This means AVG has consistently failed 3 tests for each testing. AVG was tested 19 times and passed once. If you look at some of the other vendors, that was by far the worst or at least nearly the worst performance of any apps tested over the years.
Now, yes, on the website that don't detail specifics of each specific test. So why not? Well, because it is a website for a respected magazine for anti-virus experts and the subscription is $395 per/year. Now, you can only expect so much to be given away for free. Compared to most trade e-magaizines there is more content than you would expect, but of course, they have to make money.
That said, I think they have given more than enough specifics for the average consumer. An AV app is a lot like a motorcycle helmet. You really won't know how well it works until you it is too late.
On the other hand, it would be interesting to hear what AVG company reps have to say about these tests? They might actually respond to a registered user... |
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 | reply to Sprinkle Head Sorry to post in the middle of this [OT] AVG "lovefest" but you may want to look in to using Norton Internet Security. You can configure it automatically and go. Has both the AV and firewall together so you don't need separate programs to keep up with. Sorry but it's not free. All I'll say is that you get what you pay for. Here's a link to NIS 2003:
»www.symantec.com/sabu/nis/nis_pe/ -- Help find a cure for childhood diseases at TSC |
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 sigPremium join:2001-05-05 | reply to Luthorcrow Just a note on the VB site and AVG: The only recent snapshot review I recall seeing on the site for AVG based on testing is for November 2001, IIRC. That gives some summary info on the performance for that month's tests. I understand that mag subscribers get more details on the tests.
Also, people frequently refer to AVG as if it's only a free AV. Hence the frequency of comments such as it is "free for a reason." Grisoft also sells AVG Pro, which I think differs only from the free version in that it has additional features. The virus definitions are the same in the free and Pro version. I believe it is the Pro version that is being tested by the VB. So whatever the merits or demerits of the program it's not because it's a free app. |
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 61999674Gotta Do What Ya Gotta DoPremium join:2000-09-02 Here kudos:1 | reply to Luthorcrow That is why "best" is a BAD word around here. -- Everything is relative and subjective. |
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Thanks for your input. I just want to make it a point that I'm looking for an easy solution for the user. I'm not concerned about cost. If the product I choose is free, thats great but its not a requirement. |
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| reply to Sprinkle Head Read thread, may have missed it in someone's post, or just may be one of those things that don't need to be mentioned.
Any AV is only as good as its updates. Be sure that it is on automatic for update checking, able to reboot if needed, and scheduled for a time when the computer is on to update and scan. My connection is cable also, but I crunch/fold 24/7 so I can schedule things to run at 3AM. Need to consider what their usage pattern is, to set it up so it is the easiest possible and active up to date protection. -- A word aptly spoken is like apples of gold |
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 | reply to Sprinkle Head said by Sprinkle Head: All -
Thanks for your input. I just want to make it a point that I'm looking for an easy solution for the user. I'm not concerned about cost. If the product I choose is free, thats great but its not a requirement.
Well then I see that you only have two options, if you are looking for really easy to use:
Norton Internet Security - all in one and drop dead easy
ZA and NOD32 - still easy, ZA is simple and straight forward and very informative and NOD32 is ironclad on stock settings so there is very little to adjust |
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