halfempty
join:2001-04-28
Miami, FL
| reply to apilosov
Re: NYC/DirecTV Broadband Gateway reprogramming
said by apilosov  :
If you can contribute more precise protocol description for HTTP-based config protocol, or a dump of HTTP traffic session from modem to gateway, it would be appreciated 
Another thing to consider is if the modem side can be set to bridge mode without re-flashing the firmware. Currently the gateway gets one IP on the WAN side, then a .252 on the LAN side. In my case both sets are routable. I think they are/were the only ISP to do this.
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apilosov
join:2002-12-27
Forest Hills, NY | Most likely its not able to do pure bridging. As I previously said, ISP's cooperation will be necessary to get these modems working with any ISP... |
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apilosov
join:2002-12-27
Forest Hills, NY
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http://cfcityname.directvdsl.com output
Hi,
If anyone has _complete_ output from »cfcityname.directvdsl.com?.... (obtained back in the day when these servers were open), I'd love to get my hands on that.
You can obscure your password... |
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graysonf
Premium,MVM
join:1999-07-16
Fort Lauderdale, FL
| reply to halfempty
Re: NYC/DirecTV Broadband Gateway reprogramming
No, anyone selling RFC1483 routed service can do it this way. I have a .248 LAN behind a single WAN IP on my EF 5660 in RFC1483R mode.
What was a bit different with DTV is that they do this on RFC1483 bridged service, not routed service. That is to say, you can yank out their gateway, replace it with a bridge, and the result can be used to recover and use all four of the /30 IPs as well as the LAN IP if it's public.
[text was edited by author 2003-01-02 13:34:32] |
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graysonf
Premium,MVM
join:1999-07-16
Fort Lauderdale, FL | reply to apilosov
Re: http://cfcityname.directvdsl.com output
Assuming those cf servers are still operating, and you can insert an ATM sniffer on the line, you should be able to see what you are looking for by reloading the configuration from the server. But of course you would need to be a DTV customer. |
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apilosov
join:2002-12-27
Forest Hills, NY | Well, these DSL sniffers are very very expensive, and hard to find. Which is why I'm asking if anyone has a saved output from a config server. |
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mjf
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Premium,Mod
join:2000-08-05
New Orleans, LA
clubs: | Check your IM. I just sent it to you. Good Luck.
From the old X1 brick. |
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twodogs
join:2001-08-17
Pahrump, NV | reply to apilosov
Alex, I email you a copy.... |
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apilosov
join:2002-12-27
Forest Hills, NY | reply to graysonf
Re: NYC/DirecTV Broadband Gateway reprogramming
Correct, you can use a standard modem with DTV service, but you can't use DTV's modem with any ISP that doesn't do routing DTV's way (/30 for "point-to-point" and /30 for LAN)... |
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graysonf
Premium,MVM
join:1999-07-16
Fort Lauderdale, FL
| It's /24 for WAN and /30 for LAN.
You may want to look thru the recent posts here. There was an ISP who, as part of their pitch to transition DTV customers, claimed they could re-use the DTV modems. However, they could not pull this off in the end, but supposedly managed to get inside them to some degree before deciding they were unsuitable.
Perhaps they will share notes with you. |
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ass_kicker_9
Carmen Electra, Damn She's Hot
join:2002-03-12
San Jose, CA
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Ok i have 2 Q s. Are you saying because the people that got stuck with the shitty ass big X2 s cannot have them reprogrammed because the piece of shit doesnt have a serial port ? And looking at the previous posts i can use a dsl sniffer to find the password of my modem, i am still a dtv user, not for much longer and i would appreciate clarification on this, and what a dsl sniffer is. |
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SMCinAZ
Premium
join:2000-11-29
Glendale, AZ
clubs: | reply to apilosov
So, do you want one of my X-1's, like you said above and like you said in your IM?
I do have Paypal. I like the 3 months of DSL offer, too 
Let me know. |
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ass_kicker_9
Carmen Electra, Damn She's Hot
join:2002-03-12
San Jose, CA | reply to apilosov
^^bump^^ |
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mudgie
join:2002-10-28
North Aurora, IL
| reply to apilosov
Potential problem...
My wife called the yesterday, and FedEx was waiting at the door with a pickup label from DirecTV DSL for an item worth $500.
I told her to send the FedEx guy away, since DTV didn't have the courtesy to let me know they were sending someone.
What a bunch of jerks, they just send out pickup labels without notifying anyone.
More importantly, the earlier posts saying they didn't want their stuff back appear to be in error. I have the original brick, circa 1/2000.
On another note, I checked my Discover online statement and saw that DTV charged me for another month of service on 1/03. I distinctly remember (and have the paperwork to prove it) that they pre-billed every month. Problem is... they shut off my service right before Christmas. The way I see it, they owe me about $12.
I tried to call them, but they will not take calls. I tried to click customer service, but it takes me to a login screen, and my old authentication information doesn't work.
I disputed the charge with Discover.
Check your statements!!! |
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Jason Bourne8
join:2002-12-30
Cypress, CA | reply to apilosov
Dude, I dug mine out of the garbage after I read your post in the "We'll buy the password" forum. I have the X2. Keep posting your results as I'm really interested to see if you can do it. Good luck! |
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andrew-r
@telocity.com
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do you have any idea what the three different "headers" on the board are for? JP1 JP2 and JP3
(two are 2x5 and one is 2x10)
I believe I have the 2 modem.
It seems possible to me that one of the 2x5's could be a serial port, but I'm only going on the closeness between ten pins and the standard nine for pc serial ports. |
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apilosov
join:2002-12-27
Forest Hills, NY
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On which modem, X1 or X2?
On X1, the "Terminal" _is_ a serial port. (Wired with Mac standard pinout, just buy a "mac-to-serial" cable and you are good to go).
On X2, could be, but I don't have any X2s to play with just yet.
Point of note: You only need 3 pins to drive RS-232 minimally without handshaking (ground, txd,rxd). And X1 doesn't use handshaking. So it can be any of the 5-pin headers. |
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DSLTech
join:2000-12-30
San Jose, CA
| reply to apilosov
The config file that all DTV modems download are just a bunch of text data. Within that is the vital IP info necessary.
If this data can be loaded onto the flash memory, and modified to reflect the new ISP info, then it shouldnt be hard to have a /24 on the WAN side and a private IP block on the LAN side.
Perhaps your best bet is to negotiate with DirecTV for the rights to the info .. then either buy up all the modems or provide a service to those that have them and want to re-use them.
These could, technically-speaking, all be just as powerful and flexible as your standard home-office routers. They could have requested them all back and sold them to a 3rd party for re-programming and resale. But really, most of these Gateways have been used by at least 2 customers during their life-span. So technically they'd have to be considered/labeled "Refurbished". |
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SMCinAZ
Premium
join:2000-11-29
Glendale, AZ
clubs: | reply to apilosov
How's the progress going on my X-1, guy? |
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apilosov
join:2002-12-27
Forest Hills, NY
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Currently, I haven't been successful turning it into a bridge. Unfortunately, don't think its possible without actually reflashing the modem. Configs it gets from the server is pretty basic (ips, dns, etc).
Regarding reflashing: I'm trying to figure out protocol it uses to download updates, but so far no luck.
On other hand, I got X1 DTV modem working with my DSL service (www.pilosoft.com). Tomorrow, X2. |
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