Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
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join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ
| a way for powerline BB to break the ice fast
now if im assuming this right, if your area has power like BB every plug in your house is a internet connection. so what would be wise is for power companies, powerline BB hardware companies and PSU makers to form some alliance that would allow you to get a powerline modem and PSU in one box.....though just a random thought.
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ronpin
Imagine Reality
join:2002-12-06
Nirvana
 ·AT&T Southwest
| To bad that powerline broadband is not real. Think about it. How would you conduct 2-way hi-speed packetized communication across a mish-mash of intersecting copper wires. Geesh - the telcos can hardly do it with highly ordered pairs of swictched lines.
I won't say its a scam -- because some communication can be done across the power grid -- the utilities do indeed use it now, as we speak. But think about how much fiber the utilities have installed next to their power lines -- and why?.... |
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gbdrbob
join:2003-01-26
UK
| reply to Kearnstd
They're not proposing to send data over the big overhead power cables - you're right in saying that they have fibre run alongside those cables for that. Power line broadband is about using the last mile of cable from the electricity substation to each home to carry data. Scottish power has a sucessful trial running. It's disingenuous to say that it isn't possible - they managed to get high speed data over low quality phone lines, so why not noisy power wire? Home networking kit that runs over power cables is already available. The first attempts at power line networking were 10 years ago, so they've had a lot of time to refine the technology. |
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ronpin
Imagine Reality
join:2002-12-06
Nirvana
·AT&T Southwest
| said by gbdrbob  :
Power line broadband is about using the last mile of cable from the electricity substation to each home to carry data.
Yes, I have just made contact to our local regional power company in reference to all the local fiber they have around our metro area. I want to tap into it, near upscale neighborhoods, as a "local loop" to a backbone peering point around the Dallas area. They aren't quite cognizant of the FTTH market yet -- but I'm hoping they have a spare SM optical port at their power substations. We'll see.
I still need neighborhood FTTH infrastructure, but there are nice options for homeowners once they get the bandwidth. |
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Centrilium
Totoro
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join:2002-11-21
MY
| reply to Kearnstd
Powerline is not quite a good option for broadband.Inteferences/Noise often occur in high power grid lines.Not to say even temperatures and weather conditions may affect your connection speed.It works great for indoors and multi dwelling buildings but still it is no contender for next generation technologies like VDSL,ethernet and fiber to the home.But power utility companies will most likely become FTTH/FTTB providers in the near future since fiber can run with powerlines without any noise problems just like what Japan electric companies are doing. |
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Hayward
K A R - 1 2 0 C
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join:2000-07-13
Key West, FL
| As pointed out this is not an end to end solution, but a last mile (or so) one.
Like DSL (which actually only exists between you and the CO) it would be from the local substation to you. Relatively low voltage and low noise at that range.
The big hurdle is economical transformer bridging. Like any technology speed will increase over time. Hey they once said dial-up will never be faster than 14.4kbs 
And actually that is all you can do within the voice band with straight modulation, and without the largely smoke and mirrors 28-56K uses to get to those speeds, but the ways were found.
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JTRockville
Data Ho
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join:2002-01-28
Rockville, MD
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Hurdles or not, I just scheduled an install for Tuesday at 8am. said by Kearnstd :
now if im assuming this right, if your area has power like BB every plug in your house is a internet connection. so what would be wise is for power companies, powerline BB hardware companies and PSU makers to form some alliance that would allow you to get a powerline modem and PSU in one box.....though just a random thought.
Heh, I'd be happy if the modem connected via ethernet rather than USB. Oh well - it'll still be a kick to see this new technology in its infancy!
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JTRockville
Data Ho
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join:2002-01-28
Rockville, MD
clubs: | Hmmm.... I got a "rejection" email, to cancel the install. Apparently, I'm not in the "trial" area.
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