onsitede
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Re: Such Thin-Skinned Crybabies!
Did you even read the "press release"? I'm all for free speech and all, but come on. That was pure defamation of character. I believe The Things provider has basically had enough, as the article states this is not the first problem that The Thing has been involved in. |
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yourmama
@198.3.x.x | I believe by 'pure defamation of character' you meant PARODY.
Which, last I saw, was protected speech. But with the loss of other rights, privacy and miscellaneous freedoms, I may have overlooked that one. |
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**Did you even read the "press release"? I'm all for free speech and all, but come on. That was pure defamation of character. I believe The Things provider has basically had enough, as the article states this is not the first problem that The Thing has been involved in.**
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Actually, I did. I also visited the site. It will be interesting to see if the 'defamation' thing would actually hold up in court. I mean, I have seen MUCH worse on the web. I left the site in question feeling as if it was simply his scalding opinion on Dow.... nothing more.
BTW, I am not 'siding' with any of the participants in this confilict... I could care less, and don't even agree with some opinions expressed on the site ...some are simply inaccurate. But what I am concerned about is the damage caused to the individual or small business by the 'over-reactionism' and 'knee-jerk' sanctions in this particular and other similar situations.
It deserves watching methinks. |
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micl
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From Dow's press release:
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The provider, Verio, graciously complied with our letter citing the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA). Not only did they shut down Dow-Chemical.com, but as a good corporate citizen, they agreed to shut down an entire network (Thing.net) of websites many of which, while unrelated to dow-chemical.com, appear to serve no commercial purpose, being dedicated to the unproductive analysis and critique of society and corporate behaviour.
I think this paragraph from Dow's press release says it all when it lauds the fact that Verio shut down not only the sites that may (or may not) have infringed on Dow's copyright, but other sites as well. Dow shows its true character here and it also shows how both it and Verio would rather swat the fly with the proverbial shotgun.
[edit] And BTW: who the hell is Dow to determine what is and is not productive "analysis and critique of society and corporate behavior," beyond what may have affected them and their copyrights??? [end edit]
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slim
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Arlington, VA |  Re: uhhh
You do realize that you are reading from the PARODY website, right?
I guess it is hard to tell the difference...
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uniquecp
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Re: Such Thin-Skinned Crybabies!
said by onsitede  :
Did you even read the "press release"? I'm all for free speech and all, but come on. That was pure defamation of character. I believe The Things provider has basically had enough, as the article states this is not the first problem that The Thing has been involved in.
Have you ever read some of the posts on this forum, in fact I find your opinion a true defamation of character, the character of the Constitution, so what do I do now tell Justin if he does not pull your account I will sue him until he bleeds out of every legal hole he has.
and I can
Good thing I believe in free speech huh.
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I think he crossed the line of parody. He used the dow chemical name for the site and then posted a letter that looked like it came from Dow Chemical. You would have to read several of the articles to realize this is a parody and not an actual dow chemical website. |
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micl
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Re: uhhh
said by slim :
You do realize that you are reading from the PARODY website, right?
I guess it is hard to tell the difference...
Duho!
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Re: Such Thin-Skinned Crybabies!
I would agree with you that it was purely a parody IF there had been a statement (not fine print) that it was a parody or other some such activist statement. While I agree with what DOW and VERIO has done is BAD, (and DOW should be held responsible for the actions of their holdings) I don't blame them from trying to protect themselves. YESMEN left themselves vulnerable. As to VERIO, they, I'm sure, are just distancing themselves from any impending fireballs.
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cableblows3
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Indianapolis, IN | reply to micl
unnn is this the same company that killed thousands in india?
i guess you could call that productive........ |
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Dave_L_H
join:2002-11-16
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said by yourmama:
I believe by 'pure defamation of character' you meant PARODY.
Which, last I saw, was protected speech. But with the loss of other rights, privacy and miscellaneous freedoms, I may have overlooked that one.
parody implies thats it's funny or all in fun, this was something that was put together for the sole purpose of slandering a company the site clearly states it's from dow and issues statements in dow's name. Now i don't know what happened in india and i'm sure dow like all other big chemical companies has caused lots of problems there are much more effective(like giving some facts would be nice) and legal means of drawing attention to these things this site does more harm to their cause than good. It attracts the wrong attention to what their trying to say |
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micl
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| said by Dave_L_H :
Now i don't know what happened in india and i'm sure dow like all other big chemical companies has caused lots of problems there are much more effective(like giving some facts would be nice) and legal means of drawing attention to these things this site does more harm to their cause than good. It attracts the wrong attention to what their trying to say
Ummm... back in 1984, an accident at the Union Carbide (owned by Dow Chemical) plant in Bhopal, India killed almost 4000 people and injured 3000 when a type of cyanide gas leaked from the plant. This was one of the worst chemical disasters of all time. Funny how it has faded from memory so quickly...
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Dave_L_H
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Vallejo, CA | yea and that site said it was 20000 if i'm mistaken, they were clearly wrong and verio used this as a excuse to drop a problem they have wanted to get rid of for a long time |
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