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MarkyD
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Is there a way to find out what speeds my line can handle BEFORE ordering and getting locked into a contract? I am 1,800 ft from the C.O., but have NO idea what my line quality is like. How do I find out what my line can carry? I'm considering taking the plunge and getting the 6.0/384 plan, but can't really justify getting locked into a $160/month pricing plan unless I know what I'll be getting. Is this unreasonable, or is there a way I can get it tested?

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SBC Com Tech Premium join:2002-11-05 Oklahoma City, OK	Re: SBC Techs-advice needed If you are only 1,800 ft, you will get the full 6.0/384. You must live close to Edmond Rd and Broadway. I live off Coltrane and Memorial...about five miles away.
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SBC Com Tech Premium join:2002-11-05 Oklahoma City, OK	Re: SBC Techs-advice needed I think the 6.0/384 plan only guarentees 1.5 down, or used to, but that close, you will get it all...
	permalink · 2003-01-02 23:42:39 ·

MarkyD Premium join:2002-08-20 Oklahoma City, OK clubs: ·Cox HSI	Re: SBC Techs-advice needed said by SBC Com Tech : I think the 6.0/384 plan only guarentees 1.5 down, or used to, but that close, you will get it all... Actually, I live in N. OKC now, right near 122nd and penn...I live in the apts right next to the C.O. on 122nd.
	permalink · 2003-01-03 10:49:28 ·

SBC Com Tech Premium join:2002-11-05 Oklahoma City, OK	Re: SBC Techs-advice needed Great place for DSL! I have a transfer in to that CO but don't know if I will ever get it. If you decide on it, let us know how it turns out.
	permalink · 2003-01-03 11:42:01 ·

crl620 Premium join:2002-05-15 Saint Louis, MO clubs:	w0w = 1,800ft? I'm at 12,900 ft... grr...
	permalink · 2003-01-02 23:40:27 ·

Grnbeano join:2001-11-30 Dallas, TX	Unless you have an SBC remote terminal around you, you will not get 6.0 megs down
	permalink · 2003-01-04 13:39:39 ·

MarkyD Premium join:2002-08-20 Oklahoma City, OK clubs: ·Cox HSI	Re: SBC Techs-advice needed said by Grnbeano : Unless you have an SBC remote terminal around you, you will not get 6.0 megs down What is a remote terminal, and how do I know what it looks like and/or if there's one close by?
	permalink · 2003-01-04 13:49:17 ·

Grnbeano join:2001-11-30 Dallas, TX	Re: SBC Techs-advice needed I am awaiting for my line to go LIVE! Tuesday, and right now I have Covad TeleSoho 384-1.5/384 and it's the dreaded PPOE crap and it sucks. Covad believes in that safe mode shit to keep your line stable.
	permalink · 2003-01-04 14:07:03 ·

Grnbeano

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Dallas, TX

A remote terminal is where Telco brings the CO ( Central Office ) to your remote locale. Its a huge green electrical box that uses the DPG82 ( Digital Paragain 82 fiber ). I am 13,500 ft from my CO, but with the RT about 35 yds. from my apt, I am able to get 1.5-6.0 megs down. Unless you can throw a rock at your Central Office bldg. you wont get 6.0 megs or even close. To get 1.5 megs you need to be at least 2000 ft. from your CO.

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MarkyD
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Re: SBC Techs-advice needed

said by Grnbeano :
am 13,500 ft from my CO, but with the RT about 35 yds. from my apt, I am able to get 1.5-6.0 megs down. Unless you can throw a rock at your Central Office bldg. you wont get 6.0 megs or even close. To get 1.5 megs you need to be at least 2000 ft. from your CO.

I CAN throw a rock at my CO. Maybe not hit it, but that's a different story.

I'm 1,800 ft from the C.O., per SBC techs. That should get me 6 megs, if my internal wiring is ok, right?

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Grnbeano join:2001-11-30 Dallas, TX	Re: SBC Techs-advice needed Yes, you should be fine, but I have learned this having dealt with 3 ISP's......The less phone jacks you use the better DSL is going to work for you. I have one line exclusively for DSL in my room. Alot of people wire one # throughout the whole house, thus finding later they have bad wiring someplace, so just be advised. I wired mine myself
	permalink · 2003-01-04 14:41:40 ·

nunya SEE ROCK CITY 475 MILES Premium,MVM join:2000-12-23 O Fallon, MO clubs: ·AT&T CallVantage	I'm going to throw my "expertness" weight around and say that much of what grnbeano said is not true. 2kft is not the limit for 6M, let alone 1.5M, and you don't have be on an RT to see it. I get 1.5M at 9,650' (actual) from the central office. -- SILENCE, whipper-snapper !!!
	permalink · 2003-01-04 15:37:15 ·

Grnbeano join:2001-11-30 Dallas, TX	Re: SBC Techs-advice needed Are you out of your mind?
	permalink · 2003-01-04 15:51:38 ·

MarkyD
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Re: SBC Techs-advice needed

said by Grnbeano :
Are you out of your mind?

Actually grnbeano-
When I lived in Edmond, OK still, I had a SBC quoted line distance of 11.5k ft...
I was hitting a steady 128 up, and about 1.4 down, all the time. So I can see where nunya is coming from.

Not to mention, My buddy back home in TX has an 8k loop length...he's on the 6mb/384k plan. After upgrading his internal wiring to cat5, he's getting very close to those caps.

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Flippant So Much For Subtlety Premium,Mod join:2000-06-04 Katy, TX Host: Filesharing Software Earthlink Cable Texas Gulf Coast AT&T U-verse AT&T Southwest	grnbeano, I am glad nunya threw his "expertness" in here, he is of course quite correct, there were people on option 2 (6Mb down) on VOs before RTs started to open up. Bottom line is you never know what you are going to get until it is in and working.
	permalink · 2003-01-04 18:07:50 ·

DaSneaky1D one wall to block them all Premium,MVM join:2001-03-29 The Lou	Re: SBC Techs-advice needed Kinda like a box of chocolates? Sorry, flash back
	permalink · 2003-01-04 18:54:36 ·

Grnbeano join:2001-11-30 Dallas, TX	Explain to me why when I have had 3 different ISP'S and still get no better d/l than a 480-512k? I am 13,500ft My wiring is great, I have used 4 different routers, SBC has checked the line 3 times, and still same shit. Covad charges $69.95 for there shitty telesoho biz accts. Only thing that has never changed, I mean never! is the upload at 384k
	permalink · 2003-01-04 18:56:51 ·

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Re: SBC Techs-advice needed

said by Grnbeano :
Explain to me why when I have had 3 different ISP'S and still get no better d/l than a 480-512k? I am 13,500ft
My wiring is great...

The only wiring you know about is the last 50 feet out of 13500 feet. Being 13500 feet is pretty far. But this is a good case in point. I was 14500 feet out and I got 768k for almost 2 years, so even though I was further I still got a little better than you. There are people who were told they were even farther out than I was getting max rate. So you never really know expect for generalizations.

DSL lines are like snow flakes, they are all white and cold, but they are each different in subtle ways.

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Grnbeano join:2001-11-30 Dallas, TX	Re: SBC Techs-advice needed true.........well see what I get Tuesday
	permalink · 2003-01-04 20:22:24 ·

nunya SEE ROCK CITY 475 MILES Premium,MVM join:2000-12-23 O Fallon, MO clubs:	Theres a big difference between 13kft of 26ga and 13kft of 24ga. Obviously no cable is one gauge the entire run, but you get the point. -- SILENCE, whipper-snapper !!!
	permalink · 2003-01-04 20:37:11 ·

SBC Com Tech
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Grnbeano...when I installed DSL for ASI, the distance limit that 1.5-6Mbps and 384 up was sold was 9K feet. You might not get the full 6Mbps at 9K, but you should get at least 3-4Mbps. DonnelsonM is a block from the CO, he will get the FULL 6Mbps, count on it. DPG stands for Digital Pair Gain, fed by fiber optic signal. The number after it is used to differentiate which DPG you are talking about. They are not ALL DPG82, the one close to you may be DPG82, but they are all DPG with a different number following. All the ones I have seen in OK have four numbers, example DPG4142.

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MarkyD
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Re: SBC Techs-advice needed

I'm just waiting for AOL to release the line.I was beta testing the Mac DSL software, and it was free. So no snive remarks about AOL.

I think I'll start with the 1.5/256 and work my way up from there, as the wife still hasn't agreed to let me pay $160 a month for the 6 meg package.

If the service is good, I'm dropping cox. Even though I get higher speeds with cox (steady 3mb down, 256 up) My pings have been going wild and packet loss has been bad. So, SBC, here I come! I'll keep u guys posted.

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RamblingRam N F C ........ West Champions Premium join:2000-09-25 Chesterfield, MO	Re: SBC Techs-advice needed Wow, good deal for you DonnelsonM, want to trade wifes, I could handle the 6 meg package -- LOL! Ram
	permalink · 2003-01-05 00:11:36 ·

MarkyD
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Re: SBC Techs-advice needed

said by RamblingRam :
Wow, good deal for you DonnelsonM, want to trade wifes, I could handle the 6 meg package -- LOL!

Ram

LOL RAM!! She's NOT letting me get the 6meg package...yet. But I have some trickery up my sleeve. I'll make a deal with her...I'll tell her we can finally get the living room set she's been wanting, if she lets me get the 6mb service...wait doesn't all this require money?

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RamblingRam N F C ........ West Champions Premium join:2000-09-25 Chesterfield, MO	Re: SBC Techs-advice needed LOL, I get it, the old barter deal........the Ram has been known to have pulled that trick a time or too! Ram;)
	permalink · 2003-01-05 00:41:53 ·

ddawg5150 When I Am Here I Can Help Premium,VIP join:2002-05-10 San Ramon clubs:	1800 feet that is awesonme. Would love to have the distance from the CO. I am at 11k feet from the CO and I get 1220k down consistantly but would never be able to see the 6000k at all. To slightly qutoe Homer Simpson 6Meg ahhhhhhhhhhh. Good Luck -- Pretty soon I will leave the triple digit post count
	permalink · 2003-01-05 00:53:58 ·

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