ddawg5150
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Re: SBC Techs-advice needed
1800 feet that is awesonme. Would love to have the distance from the CO. I am at 11k feet from the CO and I get 1220k down consistantly but would never be able to see the 6000k at all. To slightly qutoe Homer Simpson 6Meg ahhhhhhhhhhh.
Good Luck
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RamblingRam
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LOL, I get it, the old barter deal........the Ram has been known to have pulled that trick a time or too!
Ram;) |
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MarkyD
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said by RamblingRam  :
Wow, good deal for you DonnelsonM, want to trade wifes, I could handle the 6 meg package -- LOL!
 Ram
LOL RAM!! She's NOT letting me get the 6meg package...yet. But I have some trickery up my sleeve. I'll make a deal with her...I'll tell her we can finally get the living room set she's been wanting, if she lets me get the 6mb service...wait doesn't all this require money? |
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RamblingRam
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Chesterfield, MO | reply to MarkyD
Wow, good deal for you DonnelsonM, want to trade wifes, I could handle the 6 meg package -- LOL!
Ram |
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MarkyD
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I'm just waiting for AOL to release the line.I was beta testing the Mac DSL software, and it was free. So no snive remarks about AOL. I think I'll start with the 1.5/256 and work my way up from there, as the wife still hasn't agreed to let me pay $160 a month for the 6 meg package.
If the service is good, I'm dropping cox. Even though I get higher speeds with cox (steady 3mb down, 256 up) My pings have been going wild and packet loss has been bad. So, SBC, here I come! I'll keep u guys posted. |
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SBC Com Tech
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Oklahoma City, OK
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Grnbeano...when I installed DSL for ASI, the distance limit that 1.5-6Mbps and 384 up was sold was 9K feet. You might not get the full 6Mbps at 9K, but you should get at least 3-4Mbps. DonnelsonM is a block from the CO, he will get the FULL 6Mbps, count on it. DPG stands for Digital Pair Gain, fed by fiber optic signal. The number after it is used to differentiate which DPG you are talking about. They are not ALL DPG82, the one close to you may be DPG82, but they are all DPG with a different number following. All the ones I have seen in OK have four numbers, example DPG4142. |
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nunya
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Theres a big difference between 13kft of 26ga and 13kft of 24ga. Obviously no cable is one gauge the entire run, but you get the point.
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Grnbeano
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Dallas, TX |  reply to Flippant
true.........well see what I get Tuesday |
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Flippant
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said by Grnbeano :
Explain to me why when I have had 3 different ISP'S and still get no better d/l than a 480-512k? I am 13,500ft
My wiring is great...
The only wiring you know about is the last 50 feet out of 13500 feet. Being 13500 feet is pretty far. But this is a good case in point. I was 14500 feet out and I got 768k for almost 2 years, so even though I was further I still got a little better than you. There are people who were told they were even farther out than I was getting max rate. So you never really know expect for generalizations.
DSL lines are like snow flakes, they are all white and cold, but they are each different in subtle ways. |
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Grnbeano
join:2001-11-30
Dallas, TX
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Explain to me why when I have had 3 different ISP'S and still get no better d/l than a 480-512k? I am 13,500ft
My wiring is great, I have used 4 different routers, SBC has checked the line 3 times, and still same shit. Covad charges $69.95 for there shitty telesoho biz accts. Only thing that has never changed, I mean never! is the upload at 384k |
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DaSneaky1D
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The Lou | reply to Flippant
Kinda like a box of chocolates? Sorry, flash back  |
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Flippant
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grnbeano,
I am glad nunya threw his "expertness" in here, he is of course quite correct, there were people on option 2 (6Mb down) on VOs before RTs started to open up. Bottom line is you never know what you are going to get until it is in and working. |
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MarkyD
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said by Grnbeano :
Are you out of your mind?
Actually grnbeano-
When I lived in Edmond, OK still, I had a SBC quoted line distance of 11.5k ft...
I was hitting a steady 128 up, and about 1.4 down, all the time. So I can see where nunya is coming from.
Not to mention, My buddy back home in TX has an 8k loop length...he's on the 6mb/384k plan. After upgrading his internal wiring to cat5, he's getting very close to those caps. |
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Grnbeano
join:2001-11-30
Dallas, TX | reply to nunya
Are you out of your mind? |
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nunya
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I'm going to throw my "expertness" weight around and say that much of what grnbeano said is not true. 2kft is not the limit for 6M, let alone 1.5M, and you don't have be on an RT to see it.
I get 1.5M at 9,650' (actual) from the central office.
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Grnbeano
join:2001-11-30
Dallas, TX
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Yes, you should be fine, but I have learned this having dealt with 3 ISP's......The less phone jacks you use the better DSL is going to work for you. I have one line exclusively for DSL in my room. Alot of people wire one # throughout the whole house, thus finding later they have bad wiring someplace, so just be advised. I wired mine myself |
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MarkyD
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said by Grnbeano :
am 13,500 ft from my CO, but with the RT about 35 yds. from my apt, I am able to get 1.5-6.0 megs down. Unless you can throw a rock at your Central Office bldg. you wont get 6.0 megs or even close. To get 1.5 megs you need to be at least 2000 ft. from your CO.
I CAN throw a rock at my CO. Maybe not hit it, but that's a different story.
I'm 1,800 ft from the C.O., per SBC techs. That should get me 6 megs, if my internal wiring is ok, right? |
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Grnbeano
join:2001-11-30
Dallas, TX | reply to MarkyD
I am awaiting for my line to go LIVE! Tuesday, and right now I have Covad TeleSoho 384-1.5/384 and it's the dreaded PPOE crap and it sucks. Covad believes in that safe mode shit to keep your line stable. |
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Grnbeano
join:2001-11-30
Dallas, TX
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A remote terminal is where Telco brings the CO ( Central Office ) to your remote locale. Its a huge green electrical box that uses the DPG82 ( Digital Paragain 82 fiber ). I am 13,500 ft from my CO, but with the RT about 35 yds. from my apt, I am able to get 1.5-6.0 megs down. Unless you can throw a rock at your Central Office bldg. you wont get 6.0 megs or even close. To get 1.5 megs you need to be at least 2000 ft. from your CO. |
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MarkyD
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said by Grnbeano :
Unless you have an SBC remote terminal around you, you will not get 6.0 megs down
What is a remote terminal, and how do I know what it looks like and/or if there's one close by? |
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