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« I understand that they can't offer 'unlimited'...  
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detth
Onemhz On Aim

join:2000-10-06
Astoria, NY

 Actually

I have not heard anyone advertise unlimited amount of data can be downloaded.
Unlimited downloads - thats different. download 1 million 1 byte files....
Unlimited use is also different - how you use it is another story.

I guess its kind of those deals with the phone companies - switch to us from your 10 cents per call flat rate -to get unlimited calls! that usually gets lots of people, then they get charged like 8 cents per minute for every call.
- How were my calls restricted or not limited before? lol - get the picture?


GlobalMind
Domino Dude, POWER Systems Guy
Premium
join:2001-10-29
Hollywood, FL

Well the article was quoting the plan as:

quote:

. . .unlimited PCS Vision data access at no extra charge for three months and an additional $10 per month after that.

I don't think a claim that "access" and "downloads" are different things really works. I think that's just mincing of words and really is meaningless.

When they say "unlimited data access" -- what are they saying then? You can connect 24x7 but only download 2k per day? If that's the case then they need to say so.

This is just a simple case of the carrier using vague twists of terminology...and a failure on their part to manage their contracts.

K.
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clyde_
It's A Chrysalis, Not A Cocoon
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join:2001-05-02
Easley, SC

reply to detth
Sprint PCS actually has a clause in their contract against hooking their phones up to a computer and downloading large amounts of data. Not to say it cannot be done, but they have plans with matching prices for that kind of usage. Obviously Verizon didn't have the foresight to see this coming and place limits within their contract.

My question is what kind of people are trying to download 24/7 off their cell phones? Current wireless Internet speeds are just barely broadband. Downloading lots of large files would probably still entail a lot of wait time when compared with cable and DSL speeds. I would hardly find it worthwhile unless you're still on 56K or AOL.
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detth
Onemhz On Aim

join:2000-10-06
Astoria, NY

No one is limiting you from accessing their network. If that was the case, then rules would be set such as -
you may only access on Fridays and Mondays at such and such a time. You can access the network whenever you want with no restriction. The data transfer is what seems to tick them off.
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lashmun
Premium
join:2002-12-14
Novi, MI
reply to GlobalMind
It depends on what the definition of 'is' is ;~}


roamer1
sticking it out at you

join:2001-03-24
Atlanta, GA
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reply to clyde_
said by clyde_ See Profile:
Sprint PCS actually has a clause in their contract against hooking their phones up to a computer and downloading large amounts of data.
The SPCS $10/mo "unlimited Vision" plan includes browsing from the phone ONLY; for ANY tethered (laptop/PDA) connectivity customers must subscribe to other plans -- but people have figured out how to use their laptops/PDAs on the $10 plan anyway. Similar applies to Nextel, which offers unlimited WAP for $3.50 to $15/mo depending on what sites you want to access and what messaging services you want, but they plugged the "free tethered data" hole long ago by issuing only private IPs (and restricting access from those private (10.0.0.0/8) IPs to their WAP gateway only) to WAP-only customers and public IPs only to PacketStream/PowerApps customers.

VZW's WAP does not use packet data (even brand-new phones use old-style CSD -- VZW is more or less alone in not supporting WAP via packet data) so there is no "loophole" to cheap access like there is with SPCS and used to be with Nextel. VZW's "unlimited" Express Network data plan is $100/mo -- MUCH, MUCH more than the $3.50-15 SPCS and Nextel charge for unlimited WAP...

Hence, the SPCS/Nextel situation and the VZW situation are IMO apples and oranges -- the former is people gaining unauthorized access to their data networks (a legitimate beef), the latter is "excessive use" of a connection marketed as unlimited (a questionable beef.)

-SC
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GlobalMind
Domino Dude, POWER Systems Guy
Premium
join:2001-10-29
Hollywood, FL
 reply to lashmun
Ok thumbs for that...funny, damn funny...

K.

pierce2

join:1999-09-22
Santa Cruz, CA
reply to detth
yeah, cool. access it all you want, just don't USE it for anything? is that it?

vic102482
Premium
join:2002-04-30
Upper Marlboro, MD

HAHAHAHAHA!!! I know right
[text was edited by author 2003-01-08 02:46:52]

vic102482
Premium
join:2002-04-30
Upper Marlboro, MD

reply to detth
Well your voice is data, all modern cells are digital so its data so what are they talking about? If you are allowed to speak for unlimited times you should be allowed to download for unlimited times.
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
Premium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK
reply to pierce2
Right, just like the new Broadband plans, or Long Distance, or Telephone service.

Unlimited access.... but don't actually *use* it... just *pay* for it.


anon4

@charter.com

reply to roamer1
Wrong.

Actually, I got the Connection Cable *from* a PCS store, when I was *paying* for an 8mb/month plan. At that point, they had NO problem with using the phone with a laptop.

The 'contract' *changed*. After I paid $70 for the cable and connection kit, and got an 8mb plan, they "automatically" switched me to the unlimited plan and said I couldn't use the cable.

So, no, we aren't all bad guys trying to take advantage of poor, poor little Sprint.
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