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jodstrr

@attbi.com

3 line jack, no DSL

I'm helping a friend install SBC/yahoo DSL, & was told by 1 tech that a multi-line filter is needed for the jack(they have 3 separate phone lines into 1 jack). When her husband went to BestBuy (@ the suggestion of the tech) they only had the same filters that were included in the self-install kit. I then called tech support again & another tech said that the best bet is to get a dedicated jack for the DSL & have the other 2 phone numbers into the original jack. Why?

RadioDoc
58ef2c0
Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11
·AT&T Midwest

A three line jack, while part of the USOC RJ-11 spec, is very rare, and I don't think anyone makes a three-line filter.

Are you sure this is not behind a PBX of some sort?
--
It's not about having what you want, it's about wanting what you have.


Jon
Premium
join:2001-01-20
Lisle, IL
Uh Oh!
I have a jack in the bedroom and use a splitter to run the line to my office.

Is this going to be a problem when my I try to set up my new service in the next week or so?

RadioDoc
58ef2c0
Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11
Not if you filter the phones.


ceboos

join:2002-04-16
Evanston, IL

reply to jodstrr
IMO the self install plan that relies entirely on plugging of plugs, often makes simple things difficult.

What you need to do is buy a normal phone jack (RJ 14) and a small amount of phone wire. Find which two screws on the three way jack go to the phone with the DSL signal on it--probably the ones with Red and Green Wires attached to them, if not the ones with Yellow and Brown, and if not, the remaining two. Connect your new wire to those two screws, and the other end to the red and green screws (printed words not the color of the screws), on the new jack. Plug the DSL cable into the jack and you have a special jack for DSL while leaving everything else alone.

Charles


MikeC
Premium
join:2001-09-24
Des Plaines, IL
reply to jodstrr
PICS »dslnuts.com/DSLwiring.shtml


Jon
Premium
join:2001-01-20
Lisle, IL
  great link MikeC thanks!


DSL12steps

join:2001-12-24

reply to jodstrr
I can't help it- I HAD to reply. That link to DSLnuts is the wrong way to go. First it's a major violation of tarrif laws to go into the telco side of the nid. I work for ASI and I'm not even allowed in there. The cat5 wire that they ran is not on the protected side of the NID. Not normally a big deal, but if your cat5 home run gets spiked and messes up the drop or telco plant you could be liable for damages. Also the crappy filter while it may work, was NEVER designed to handle the 105 volts ringing current for the entire house and all the phones. Do us all a favor and call ASI or you ISP and get it done correctly. You will be happier in the long run knowing it's done right.


Jon
Premium
join:2001-01-20
Lisle, IL
Do you need to run cat5 anyway?
Couldn't I just use the existing phone line that's already there and connected?


DSL12steps

join:2001-12-24
reply to jodstrr
You dont need Cat5 but you could get a nid splitter. Someone here knows where to buy them.


Jon
Premium
join:2001-01-20
Lisle, IL

pardon my ignorance but why would I need one?
I'm new to this whole line share thing since I've been on DTV DSL/Telocity for the last three years and haven't needed to know these things.

So why can't I just plug into the phone line, Or can I?
Is this just to gain a little speed?

I want to do what's easiest for now and I'll update everything when it's not freezing outside.


DoctorWho5
Shadow
Premium
join:2002-07-11
Carol Stream, IL
clubs:

No, you don't need to do all this. This is what is generally referred to as a "home run". It is a direct line from the NID to your dsl modem. This bypasses all the existing internal wiring (the phone wire that goes to all your existing phone jacks). People do this to avoid any possible interference on the line that the existing internal wiring may cause and thus may improve your speed. If you don't run a homerun, you can simply plug the DSL modem into any phone jack in the house and any other devices on the line will have to have a filter attached (filters are supplied free with the DSL modem).

Any clearer?


Jon
Premium
join:2001-01-20
Lisle, IL


reply to DSL12steps
Okay, Might this be a problem?
We had a phone problem this summer and when th phone co. came out to fix it here is what they did.

first, we had an old style nid (like the link showed). But when they came to fix it they ran the line into the new nid (first pic) and then ran a line from there around the side of the house to whatever it was the installed there (second pic). I have no Idea what the big black cable is.

Do you think that will cause a problem or could I/Should I run a "Home Run" from that second box to my office??
[text was edited by author 2003-01-14 18:34:48]


MikeC
Premium
join:2001-09-24
Des Plaines, IL
reply to jodstrr
Trace them.


ryder9

join:2003-01-09
here
reply to jodstrr
dude.... call repair, your NID aint grounded


telcotech

join:2002-02-02
at&t
reply to Jon
I would love to see the tech's manager do a quality inspection on this one.... LOL .....


Jon
Premium
join:2001-01-20
Lisle, IL
we had our house sided recently so they covered up a lot of wires. It may be there somewhere.
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