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reply to jazzman916

Re: Why the different route?

Very, Very Good News!!!

Thanks!

LB

reply to ASG17
Thank you ASG1 for the update
Much appreciated.
Glad you were able to share this with us.
Very good news indeed.

reply to ASG17

said by ASG17:

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UPDATE!! UPDATE!! UPDATE!!
Good news to all in this forum. New info about the latency and routing. The upgrades to the BRIB are almost complete. They started in November and have completely replaced the BRIB one section at a time. As for the latency issues and the routing problems, BRIB architects are aware of this and assured me all routing would be taken care of. We will be routed to the closest POP city(ATL,MIA,NOL). The ETR, I was told goes like this; Miami is to be turned up and finalized by the end of next week. Between Orlando and ATL should be up by MON. or TEUS of next week. Because of these two major sites left to go, some routing is still affected. It wont be long now and all our problems will be over. Even after these cities are up there may be some issues until everyone is routed properly. I will be keeping in contact with the architect and will post any delays or other info that will be helpful.
BSIS
ASG

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Thank you ASG1! Please do keep us updated as you seem to be the only contact we have.
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reply to ASG17
Well I am glad to see that all my shopping for a new ISP is for nothing. I really did not want to switch, I just wanted my low ping back. Thanks for the info ASG!

reply to ahabdg
yeah man thats real good news to hear... I play CS also and i cant stand playin in scrimmages and i have 80-90 ping all the time , in the past i had 40-60 and that was nice. Also whats the deal with NC when will they be fixed. You mention FL and ATL , what about NC.

Very good news! If you could also find out when the Memphis, TN area will be done, i would be very very happy =)

reply to ASG17
Glad to see you here ASGI and thanks for the info on the BRIB.

reply to ahabdg
Yeah, I was wondernig why I had pings of 90 instead of 50. Thanks for enlightening me.

No change in Charlotte, NC yet.
GW5.NOL1.ALTER.NET is still my route.
I just switched from DirecTV and did not really know
why BellSouth had such a bad ping.

www.dslreports.com (209.123.109.175) 106.091 ms 114.433 ms 105.829 ms
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I am not sure where NC is going to get routed.. probably Atlanta?

We clearly show like some users going back to normal and others still being routed through NOL.. and i am one of the many.. basicly all people in Florida are getting re-routed through NOL..

Guess we will know when we go through MIA when we see MIA again

said by FastAttack:

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I am not sure where NC is going to get routed.. probably Atlanta?

We clearly show like some users going back to normal and others still being routed through NOL.. and i am one of the many.. basicly all people in Florida are getting re-routed through NOL..

Guess we will know when we go through MIA when we see MIA again

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reply to ASG17
I hope that Bellsouth routes us to the actual internet in as few hops as possible. I've been a charter.net subscriber for a year and I believe that charter tries to keep all their subscribers on their little network for as long as possible before letting you get on the internet. I would guess that this has to do with the money they have to spend or else why do it? I play online games pretty frequently and it takes 12 hops for me to get to a game server I rent in Washington DC. The crazy route I must go through is all the way to Dallas, TX before actually getting on the internet. I live in middle TN. I'll paste below a tracert I just ran. It is 9 am so the network is not very busy and my ping is under 80 right now. During off peak hours my ping will go as low as 70 ms but, at night it goes above 200 sometimes like it was doing last night. That is another reason that I'm going to Bellsouth. Just waiting on my modem to arrive. I hope Bellsouth really will be giving us the straightest shot to the internet and not do like charter and keep you on their little network for as long as possible. I have a friend in my same town who still has DirecTV DSL and had him ping my server and at the same time I was getting 85 ms he was getting 40 ms and his number of hops was down at least a couple less than mine with charter. I'm assuming that since DirecTV DSL in my area was using Bellsouth for their actual network my pings to my server will be similar to his. If anyone wants to ping 63.210.56.85 I'd be interested to hear your results. Thanks.

Tracing route to 85.56.210.63.dvlabs.com [63.210.56.85]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms 10.177.32.1
2 10 ms 10 ms 20 ms 216.206.101.30
3 20 ms 30 ms 40 ms kcm-edge-02.inet.qwest.net [65.120.164.81]
4 30 ms 20 ms 30 ms kcm-core-02.inet.qwest.net [205.171.29.41]
5 40 ms 40 ms 30 ms dal-core-02.inet.qwest.net [205.171.8.141]
6 60 ms 40 ms 41 ms dal-brdr-02.inet.qwest.net [205.171.25.50]
7 40 ms 40 ms 30 ms pos1-2.core1.Dallas1.Level3.net [209.245.240.145
]
8 40 ms 40 ms 40 ms so-4-0-0.mp2.Dallas1.Level3.net [209.247.10.105]

9 70 ms 80 ms 71 ms so-0-0-0.mp1.Washington1.level3.net [64.159.0.13
8]
10 70 ms 70 ms 70 ms gige7-0.ipcolo1.Washington1.Level3.net [64.159.1
8.3]
11 70 ms 70 ms 80 ms unknown.Level3.net [63.210.62.62]
12 71 ms 80 ms 70 ms 85.56.210.63.dvlabs.com [63.210.56.85]

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>tracert 63.210.56.85

Tracing route to 85.56.210.63.dvlabs.com [63.210.56.85]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.1.254
2 15 ms 16 ms 16 ms adsl-61-154-1.mia.bellsouth.net [208.61.154.1]
3 15 ms 16 ms 15 ms adsl-152-108-1.mia.bellsouth.net [205.152.108.1]

4 16 ms 16 ms 16 ms 209.215.49.14
5 17 ms 16 ms 16 ms 65.83.237.8
6 15 ms 16 ms 15 ms 65.83.236.18
7 32 ms 31 ms 33 ms POS1-0.hsipaccess2.Miami1.Level3.net [64.156.8.2
1]
8 31 ms 32 ms 34 ms ge-6-1-1.mp2.Miami1.level3.net [64.159.1.101]
9 45 ms 44 ms 44 ms so-5-0-0.mp1.Washington1.level3.net [64.159.1.2]

10 47 ms 47 ms 48 ms gige7-2.ipcolo1.Washington1.Level3.net [64.159.1
8.131]
11 44 ms 44 ms 46 ms unknown.Level3.net [63.210.62.62]
12 48 ms 48 ms 48 ms 85.56.210.63.dvlabs.com [63.210.56.85]

Trace complete.

not bad

Tracing route to 85.56.210.63.dvlabs.com [63.210.56.85]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms launchmodem [192.168.1.254]
2 18 ms 18 ms 17 ms adsl-32-196-1.bna.bellsouth.net [67.32.196.1]
3 17 ms 16 ms 16 ms adsl-81-232-1.bna.bellsouth.net [65.81.232.1]
4 16 ms 16 ms 16 ms 205.152.150.249
5 39 ms 47 ms 40 ms 65.83.237.26
6 40 ms 41 ms 40 ms 65.83.236.38
7 54 ms 55 ms 53 ms so-2-0-0.gar2.dal1.Level3.net [67.72.4.1]
8 54 ms 54 ms 54 ms unknown.Level3.net [64.159.3.193]
9 94 ms 95 ms 93 ms so-0-0-0.mp1.Washington1.level3.net [64.159.0.13
8]
10 87 ms 85 ms 85 ms gige7-2.ipcolo1.Washington1.Level3.net [64.159.1
8.131]
11 95 ms 94 ms 94 ms unknown.Level3.net [63.210.62.62]
12 88 ms 88 ms 87 ms 85.56.210.63.dvlabs.com [63.210.56.85]

Trace complete.

Hi all

ke4rzi, I also live in Columbia, TN. I think you will be very satisfied with BellSouth, once they get everything ironed out. I didn't have much luck with Charter...imho...they oversold their bandwidth...their tech support was unsatisfactory when I was with them last year...so I moved six miles down the road just so I could get DSL from BellSouth...their tech support is much better.
Just be patient as we all have been...cya around

BULLS

reply to ke4rzi
You think 12 hops is bad?

[arianne:~] michael% traceroute zztzed.org
traceroute to zztzed.org (216.133.73.17), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
1 nat-gw (192.168.1.1) 1.655 ms 1.542 ms 1.678 ms
2 adsl-80-165-1.ags.bellsouth.net (65.80.165.1) 12.121 ms 10.718 ms 10.867 ms
3 adsl-78-139-1.ags.bellsouth.net (216.78.139.1) 12.106 ms 12.025 ms 12.897 ms
4 205.152.226.249 (205.152.226.249) 11.956 ms 13.076 ms 12.351 ms
5 205.152.226.53 (205.152.226.53) 15.272 ms 13.940 ms 14.239 ms
6 205.152.135.249 (205.152.135.249) 19.489 ms 14.154 ms 14.633 ms
7 65.83.237.54 (65.83.237.54) 35.394 ms 34.872 ms 36.837 ms
8 65.83.236.38 (65.83.236.38) 32.811 ms 32.164 ms 31.515 ms
9 500.so-0-0-0.GW5.NOL1.ALTER.NET (65.208.10.17) 36.012 ms 34.866 ms 34.732 ms
10 0.so-2-0-0.CL2.NOL1.ALTER.NET (152.63.102.94) 34.967 ms 36.078 ms 36.231 ms
11 0.so-0-2-0.XL2.DFW9.ALTER.NET (152.63.1.246) 47.048 ms 45.406 ms 46.079 ms
12 0.so-7-0-0.XR2.DFW9.ALTER.NET (152.63.102.2) 50.249 ms 49.122 ms 48.805 ms
13 184.ATM7-0.BR3.DFW9.ALTER.NET (152.63.100.173) 48.024 ms 48.159 ms 48.784 ms
14 204.255.174.38 (204.255.174.38) 184.548 ms 220.302 ms 215.363 ms
15 pos0-0-0.atl-m100.gw.epoch.net (155.229.123.129) 80.553 ms 81.159 ms 80.507 ms
16 giga4-0.atl-c000.gw.epoch.net (155.229.57.237) 79.851 ms 80.326 ms 80.442 ms
17 pos6-1.dcp-c000.gw.epoch.net (155.229.57.82) 81.676 ms 80.774 ms 84.335 ms
18 pos1-0.dcp-c001.gw.epoch.net (155.229.57.246) 82.178 ms 82.417 ms 84.226 ms
19 seri2-0.bal-m200.gw.epoch.net (155.229.57.90) 80.427 ms 79.802 ms 80.323 ms
20 206-135-244-114.bal-m200.cust.gw.epoch.net (206.135.244.114) 85.506 ms 84.175 ms 84.985 ms
21 eyeball.suffusions.net (216.133.73.10) 82.437 ms 81.426 ms 81.162 ms
22 zztzed.org (216.133.73.17) 81.079 ms 81.807 ms 80.559 ms

(I've been getting annoyed at all the traceroutes in this thread, yet now here I am posting one. It's like, ironic or something...like ten thousand spoons when all I need is a knife!)

Incidentally, I get 14 hops to your server, with an average ping (out of 10) of 85.807ms.
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reply to BULLSeyeCoA
[QUOTE= BULLSeyeCoA ]Tracing route to 85.56.210.63.dvlabs.com [63.210.56.85]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms launchmodem [192.168.1.254]
2 18 ms 18 ms 17 ms adsl-32-196-1.bna.bellsouth.net [67.32.196.1]
3 17 ms 16 ms 16 ms adsl-81-232-1.bna.bellsouth.net [65.81.232.1]
4 16 ms 16 ms 16 ms 205.152.150.249
5 39 ms 47 ms 40 ms 65.83.237.26
6 40 ms 41 ms 40 ms 65.83.236.38
7 54 ms 55 ms 53 ms so-2-0-0.gar2.dal1.Level3.net [67.72.4.1]
8 54 ms 54 ms 54 ms unknown.Level3.net [64.159.3.193]
9 94 ms 95 ms 93 ms so-0-0-0.mp1.Washington1.level3.net [64.159.0.13
8]
10 87 ms 85 ms 85 ms gige7-2.ipcolo1.Washington1.Level3.net [64.159.1
8.131]
11 95 ms 94 ms 94 ms unknown.Level3.net [63.210.62.62]
12 88 ms 88 ms 87 ms 85.56.210.63.dvlabs.com [63.210.56.85]

Trace complete.

Hi all
Heck, that doesn't look any better than charter. I just did a tracert and I guess because everyone is watching the Titans play they aren't taking up bandwidth.
Tracing route to 85.56.210.63.dvlabs.com [63.210.56.85]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 10 ms 20 ms 10 ms 10.177.32.1
2 20 ms 10 ms 10 ms 216.206.101.30
3 30 ms 20 ms 30 ms kcm-edge-02.inet.qwest.net [65.120.164.81]
4 20 ms 30 ms 120 ms kcm-core-02.inet.qwest.net [205.171.29.41]
5 40 ms 50 ms 40 ms dal-core-02.inet.qwest.net [205.171.8.141]
6 40 ms 40 ms 40 ms dal-brdr-02.inet.qwest.net [205.171.25.50]
7 30 ms 50 ms 41 ms pos1-2.core1.Dallas1.Level3.net [209.245.240.145
]
8 40 ms 50 ms * so-4-0-0.mp2.Dallas1.Level3.net [209.247.10.105]

9 70 ms 70 ms 70 ms so-0-0-0.mp1.Washington1.level3.net [64.159.0.13
8]
10 70 ms 80 ms 70 ms gige7-0.ipcolo1.Washington1.Level3.net [64.159.1
8.3]
11 70 ms 101 ms 80 ms unknown.Level3.net [63.210.62.62]
12 70 ms 70 ms 80 ms 85.56.210.63.dvlabs.com [63.210.56.85]

Trace complete.

Heck, that doesn't look as good as the crappy routing that Charter has in place and the same number of hops. Also, your pings don't look very good either. If I'm reading that correctly it looks like Bellsouth is also going through Dallas, TX and then heads up to Washington. I'll be one of the shortest term customers they've ever had if the pings aren't good. That's one of the main reasons I left Charter. I already sent you a message through DSL Reports about our local power company finishing their cable tv and internet system in a few months. I may be headed that way as soon as they get any bugs worked out they may find during the early stages. Just ping 63.210.56.85 and let me see what you are getting. I was sure hoping for less than 12 hops to Washington where my game server is located. To top off the rest of this bad news I've been reading in this long thread, the Titans are losing due to a bunch of darn turnovers. I'm just getting disgruntled all the way around. There's no doubt that BS is changing their routing so that it saves them money. For $50 a month I don't care how much they've got to spend to have a good network. $50 a month is as high a payment for that sort of speed as you'll find most anywhere. They want to charge premium price for a premium product. They better show the premium product. I'm about to tell the shipper to return to sender. Wish you had already been signed up and let me know how your tracert looked before I signed up. Hey, what kind of upload and download speeds are you getting with the speed test sites here at DSL reports. I hope you're getting at least 1200 down and around 220 up. Let me know, thanks.
Ben the grump!

Dude your jumping ship before it even arrives to you..

I suggest keeping the modem.. and not activate it until the brib structure upgrades are completed

Speedtests do in fact show avg 1200kbps down...215kbps up...transfer rate is 150kbps...like I said...be patient.
You will be happy with BS once they get it ironed out.

BULLS