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el_jeffe

join:2003-01-30
Altadena, CA

here's how the sweaty tech sees it

Hello, all...I'm just a lowly repair tech, but here is my understanding, at least technically...

Once you are provided service by a CLEC using the 'UNE-P' (Unbundled Network Elements) product, the CLEC is our customer, and the CLEC's customer is the 'end-usar'. damn im leet. All we provide is a pair of wires from our central office to your residence/business/whatnot. No switch, no dialtone, no nothing...just a pair of wires. Once that CLEC has leased that line, we aren't allowed to change it, unless they call us and say the wires are faulty, in which case we go fix your pair. We can't put any of our services over the pair. If you leased a car, would you let the dealer lease it to someone else halfway through your contract? (sorry, bad analogy, but I can't think of anything similar)

Now, if your CLEC wanted to order SBC DSL on that line ON YOUR BEHALF, (you/your being the end usar), then technically it could be done - we could connect our services to the line via a colocation point in the central office, much like many CLEC's do. We would bill them business rates, after all, they are a business...much like CLEC's who subscribe to our wire repair plan (not very many do), they are subject to the business rates, even though the end user may be a residential customer.

Ask your CLEC to order SBC DSL service for your access line...hehehe...of course, to recoup their cost, they would have to charge you business rates...

I hope that makes some sense, I'm really tired.


joako
Premium
join:2000-09-07
/dev/null
·AT&T U-Verse

Better analogy would be: Lease a pre-owned BMW, but not from a dealer. I then want to add a CD changer and go to BMW/the dealer and TELL THEM to add a CD changer to the car. Just as if my CLEC leases a line and then I go to the provider and tell them I want to get DSL.

That's what I have right now, for over a year, this is the second time they say they are going to cut off our DSL and they never do.

said by el_jeffe See Profile:
Hello, all...I'm just a lowly repair tech, but here is my understanding, at least technically...

Once you are provided service by a CLEC using the 'UNE-P' (Unbundled Network Elements) product, the CLEC is our customer, and the CLEC's customer is the 'end-usar'. damn im leet. All we provide is a pair of wires from our central office to your residence/business/whatnot. No switch, no dialtone, no nothing...just a pair of wires. Once that CLEC has leased that line, we aren't allowed to change it, unless they call us and say the wires are faulty, in which case we go fix your pair. We can't put any of our services over the pair. If you leased a car, would you let the dealer lease it to someone else halfway through your contract? (sorry, bad analogy, but I can't think of anything similar)

Now, if your CLEC wanted to order SBC DSL on that line ON YOUR BEHALF, (you/your being the end usar), then technically it could be done - we could connect our services to the line via a colocation point in the central office, much like many CLEC's do. We would bill them business rates, after all, they are a business...much like CLEC's who subscribe to our wire repair plan (not very many do), they are subject to the business rates, even though the end user may be a residential customer.

Ask your CLEC to order SBC DSL service for your access line...hehehe...of course, to recoup their cost, they would have to charge you business rates...

I hope that makes some sense, I'm really tired.

representing
5th Sniper

join:2001-01-20
Prince George, BC
·TELUS

reply to el_jeffe
If you leased a car, would you let the dealer lease it to someone else halfway through your contract? (sorry, bad analogy, but I can't think of anything similar)
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Nope good analogy wrong side. it should be more like this. you lease a car and half way through your contract you return it and get one from someone else.

OR

you lease a car from one company then turn around and lease another one from another company so that your wife can drive one. The first company ain't going to take the car back considering they are still making money.

telco's should also follow this, they should be honored that a customer liked their service so much that they stay with their dsl service but wanted a cheaper monthly phone rate, the customer could have asked the telco to price match, they may have.

never know
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