  lexi51 Premium join:2001-07-02 Hurricane, WV
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| System Mechanic or jv16 Power Tools?
I am currently using System Mechanic by iolo. I have noticed most of the people on here seem to use jv16 powertools. I just need a program to help keep the junk off my computer. What is the main difference in the two programs? I'd appreciate any information on this. Thanks in advance. |
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  Mats Here kitty and the chimp. Smash Premium join:2002-03-16
| well in the first place jv16 is free and system mechanic isnt. i have used both and if they were both free i would still use jv16. -- Sygate Help Sites!! »bellsouthpwp.net/i/k/ikpe/ »www.whitehat-security.com/SPF.htm |
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  lexi51 Premium join:2001-07-02 Hurricane, WV | Ok, Thanks, what does jv16 do that the system mechanic doesn't? I haven't bought system mechanic, just using the trial version, so far, so I was just wondering. |
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  Lurkers inc Don't Call Me Doink
join:2001-10-13 Seattle, WA
| said by lexi51 : Ok, Thanks, what does jv16 do that the system mechanic doesn't? I haven't bought system mechanic, just using the trial version, so far, so I was just wondering.
Both are decent products in my opinion.
System Mechanic does not clean the registry as throughly jv16.
System Mechanic is more automated and has a safe installer and a few other options that jv16 does not.
Running the trial of System Mechanic should give you a good idea of it's features.
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  Mats Here kitty and the chimp. Smash Premium join:2002-03-16
| reply to lexi51 i havent used System mechanic for awhile but i think it does more things than jv16 does. i cant exactly remember what though. plus it looks better. but IMO jv16 does a better job than system mechanic of the things that they both do. you can run both together. clean your registry with system mechanic and then do it again with jv16. -- Sygate Help Sites!! »bellsouthpwp.net/i/k/ikpe/ »www.whitehat-security.com/SPF.htm |
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  Skipdawg The Original Premium,ExMod 2001-03 join:2001-04-19 The Void | reply to lexi51 I've used both and do have to say I like jv16 Power Tools much better. -- Proud US Navy Veteran. |
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  John2g Qui Tacet Consentit Premium join:2001-08-10 England
| reply to lexi51 said by lexi51 : I am currently using System Mechanic by iolo. I have noticed most of the people on here seem to use jv16 powertools. I just need a program to help keep the junk off my computer. What is the main difference in the two programs? I'd appreciate any information on this. Thanks in advance.
A word of warning about System Mechanic. I've just moved it from my W2K to XPPro partition. Looking through the settings for "Customise Windows Settings" I altered nothing and hit "Cancel" It still altered the "Hide unused icons" in the System Tray. It may have altered other things. As I had only just made an image, I was able to undo these alteration/s. -- All the electrons used in the creation of this message were recycled. No electrons used were harmed or mistreated in any manner. |
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| reply to lexi51 Well, I might not be the most objective person to say anything about this issue but I think that System Mechanic is a very medicore tools package with perhaps the worst graphical user interface in the history of computer software (Even Proximitron looks good compared to SM).
The program's registry cleaner is very basic by the means of performance, user interface and features, just like the whole program IMHO. Not even talking about the fact that PT's list of features is too long to list while SM has just a few very basic and feature limited tools.
But, of course, I can understand the reason for this discussion since PT's user interface doesn't list all the features as clear as possible and therefore many users might not find them. This is going to change with the upcoming PT 1.4. But not only does it contain a better user interface but it also includes four totally new and very exciting tools. I'm afraid I can't tell you more about these tools but you will all see them within two months. |
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  John2g Qui Tacet Consentit Premium join:2001-08-10 England | Good! Keep up the good work jv  |
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  Keizer I'M Your Huckleberry Premium,MVM join:2003-01-20 | reply to lexi51 Not to mention, system mecahnic did not fair well on the test located at the jv16 powertools web site!! Keizer |
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  Keizer I'M Your Huckleberry Premium,MVM join:2003-01-20
| reply to lexi51 I had a quick question. Is it possible to just download the registry cleaning tool in jv16 powertools, without the other utilities? I am running the full package on my pc, but my wife is just looking for a registry cleaner for her pc. Thanks alot....Keizer |
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  lexi51 Premium join:2001-07-02 Hurricane, WV | reply to jv16 Wow,,Thank you very much for your reply to this question. I did download your program, and I am still reading up on it before I really use it. I appreciate your input, and I will definitely stay tuned for your future updates. Thanks again! |
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  Randy Bell Premium join:2002-02-24 Santa Clara, CA
| reply to Keizer said by Keizer : I had a quick question. Is it possible to just download the registry cleaning tool in jv16 powertools, without the other utilities? I am running the full package on my pc, but my wife is just looking for a registry cleaner for her pc. Thanks alot....Keizer
The old version 4.2 of RegCleaner is available as a separate d/l, but I don't think the new registry cleaner can be separated from the jv16 PowerTools package of which it is a part. :) -- "But now abide faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these is love." (1 Cor. 13:13) |
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  Keizer I'M Your Huckleberry Premium,MVM join:2003-01-20
| reply to lexi51 Being new to jv16 powertools, and never having to use the update feature yet, how does it work? When the new version comes out, that jv16 mentioned in this thread, will it require un-installing the current version I am using? Or do you load right over the top? Thanks...Keizer |
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 Tuulilapsi Kenosis
join:2002-07-29 Finland | A good bottom-line rule is to always do a clean install instead of an upgrade, and this is with every piece of software imaginable from OS's to firewalls and word processors.  |
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  Randy Bell Premium join:2002-02-24 Santa Clara, CA
| While tullilapsi's advice is the best, I will add that I've never had any problems installing the new jv16 PT on top of the old: and it preserves backups that way. But a clean install is probably the best. :) -- "But now abide faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these is love." (1 Cor. 13:13) |
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  Keizer I'M Your Huckleberry Premium,MVM join:2003-01-20 | reply to lexi51 Thanks you guys. Nice to see you here Randy as well as the other forum. You have helped me with alot of questions. Thanks.....Keizer |
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  Keizer I'M Your Huckleberry Premium,MVM join:2003-01-20
| reply to lexi51 Ooops, I forgot to mention. Speaking of clean installs, It seems that when you un-install a program using add/remove programs in XP,it works really well. My old pc was running windows 95, and everytime I used add/remove programs, the little window would pop up telling me that all parts of the program were not removed. It suggested to remove the remaining files manually. I have un-installed a few programs on my XP pro pc, and then re-installed the programs with no trouble at all. And these were programs that were pegged in the forums as being really hard to remove, and would cause error messages when you try and re-install them. I have never received the dreaded pop up window telling me that some of the files could not be removed when using xp. On two pc's running XP, I was able to un-install Nortons systemworks 2002, and then load 2003 without even a hiccup. Keizer |
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  Lurkers inc Don't Call Me Doink
join:2001-10-13 Seattle, WA
| reply to Randy Bell What I do is start the download then go to the uninstall applet and uninstall. When the old version is removed then the new version is ready to be installed.
Why? Habit. Plus when you update over old it sometimes breaks the uninstaller. Exception is when the software author says it is okay or recommended to install right over the old one.
Definitely a habit but sometimes you learn from manually having to remove programs.
System mechanic is easier and safer to use for a novice computer user in my opinion.
JV16 is can be a more powerful cleaner but it does take a bit of knowledge (not much, I figured it out) to get the full benefit from it.
Note that I am not saying either is unsafe to use or I would not recommend them.
Paul, [text was edited by author 2003-03-04 21:49:50] |
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  Keizer I'M Your Huckleberry Premium,MVM join:2003-01-20
| reply to lexi51 Ok my wife finally let me load jv16 powertools on her pc tonight. It found 168 items listed in green and safe to remove. She won't let me remove any of it. She can't imagine her pc working after the items are deleted. To be quite honest, I don't even know what most of the items are. I mean I know they are items that don't exist, or are usless entrys etc, but I don't really know what they are connected to. Or used to be connected to. Seems like once a person can get through the first scan and deletion, then after that it would be easy to figure out what items are. Especially if you ran it anytime you installed or un-installed a program. If you came up clean before the program installation or un-installation,and then ran the rgistry cleaner and found items, you would know they were associted with the current program you were working with. Keizer |
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