JakCrow
join:2001-12-06
Palo Alto, CA
| reply to BBC4544
Re: gov't and competent???
Sounds like your city workers would be in good company with some of the SBC techs I've encountered lately. You should see the condition of some of their vans too.
For those in the audience that don't know, SBC has been pushing this new PR campaign about "Pacific Bell is now just SBC". The TV spots show some guy coming up to brand new Pac Bell vans, taking the PB logo off and paining the SBC one on them. Needless to say, their real vans are pretty much in bad shape, and none of them say SBC. In fact, all the ones I've seen in the SF bay area still say "A Pacific Telesis Company" on them.
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BBC4544
join:2002-03-12
Saint Peters, MO | believe it or not....due to the labor laws in your wonderful state, it is cheaper to keep a POS tec on the payroll then to lay him off or fire him. it sucks |
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JakCrow
join:2001-12-06
Palo Alto, CA | That must be why they gave another 9000 in Cali the boot. And it's not the labor laws, it's the CWA. |
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BBC4544
join:2002-03-12
Saint Peters, MO
| no it is the labor laws. they laid off cwa people from CA to MO. due to your states labor laws in order to avoid paying fines the company has to keep a person on the payroll almost a year and a half after the surplus is announced. for example....a group is surplused and the company has to lay some people off. a tec in MO will be off the books in about six months. in CA this process takes 18 months and you have to prove to the state that the job was not moved out of state because if it was the you have to pay fines. i am not going to pull any punches. i really do not like CA. CA is the US test bed for socialism and it is failing beautifully. |
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JakCrow
join:2001-12-06
Palo Alto, CA
| Ah, if it were only that easy to explain away, but it isn't. Once again, SBC blaming the actions of the company on the government. I hope the municipal broadband, cable tv, and phone idea catches on in more states. I'm all for making the telcos and cablecos bleed real money by losing customers than listening to them cry the sky is falling because they only made $2 billion last quarter than $3 billion.
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herberthm1
join:2002-04-06
Van Nuys, CA
| reply to JakCrow
Just for your information, sbc or pacific bell is in the whole state not just sf.
Needless to say, their real vans are pretty much in bad shape, and none of them say SBC. In fact, all the ones I've seen in the SF bay area still say "A Pacific Telesis Company" on them.
Most of the one I seen are kind of new chevy 2000 or 2001 and some of them say SBC |
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herberthm1
join:2002-04-06
Van Nuys, CA
|  reply to JakCrow
said by JakCrow  :
That must be why they gave another 9000 in Cali the boot. And it's not the labor laws, it's the CWA.
You should get your facts together before you talk it was 3000 in California,2100 from management and 900 from craft, most of them took and ERB (early retirement packages) and some others were relocated to different position in the company |
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BBC4544
join:2002-03-12
Saint Peters, MO
| reply to JakCrow
man are you a jack ass.... you blame cwa, i point out your wrong and you come back with
" Once again, SBC blaming the actions of the company on the government. "
i am not defending the company for hiring a POS tec,(i would like to point out that most of these POS tecs were inherited due to the pac bell/sbc merger) i am simply pointing out that the CA creates a situation that it is cheaper to keep that tec on the payroll then fire him/her or lay him/her off. |
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JakCrow
join:2001-12-06
Palo Alto, CA
| said by BBC4544 :
man are you a jack ass.... you blame cwa, i point out your wrong and you come back with
" Once again, SBC blaming the actions of the company on the government. "
i am not defending the company for hiring a POS tec,(i would like to point out that most of these POS tecs were inherited due to the pac bell/sbc merger) i am simply pointing out that the CA creates a situation that it is cheaper to keep that tec on the payroll then fire him/her or lay him/her off.
Funny, I don't believe I've ever insulted you, I can if you want me to though. Saying that all the crap techs were from PB is just a lame duck. PB is not alone in the market of having crap techs, SBC is quite capable of staffing the same bad people. As to this labor law, please point to it. I was unable to find anything regarding it using the general info you've posted. And don't insult me again.
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BosstonesOwn
join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
clubs:
 ·Comcast
| reply to BBC4544
said by BBC4544 :
man are you a jack ass.... you blame cwa, i point out your wrong and you come back with
" Once again, SBC blaming the actions of the company on the government. "
i am not defending the company for hiring a POS tec,(i would like to point out that most of these POS tecs were inherited due to the pac bell/sbc merger) i am simply pointing out that the CA creates a situation that it is cheaper to keep that tec on the payroll then fire him/her or lay him/her off.
why do you resort to name calling can you not keep anything on track... just stop calling names and be a normal person and discuss the facts. it ain't as hard as it seems. |
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