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mallomar

join:2001-04-11
Silver Spring, MD

reply to PatientGuy
Re: Anybody heard anything final about IBS Networks?

Well, I figure the worst that can happen is that they throw out my claim if I fill out the form incorrectly.

And since I doubt that I'll ever see any of the money IBS owes me, I wouldn't be too bent out of shape.

But I do want to try filing the claim -- I think everyone who got shafted by IBS should submit a claim -- just so it's on record, in case IBS emerges from Chapter 11.

Please let me know if you get any answers on how to fill it out. The form has to be submitted by June 28.

Thanks!

kingdomware

join:2000-09-23
Waldorf, MD


reply to Anon
Well, it seems the beast is trying to grow a new head. »www.securedotnet.com/

I knew I should have sold them my bridge.

Answer me this Batman, how can someone have money to run another website, but is bankrupt when it is time to issue refunds?

I don't know Robin, maybe it's time for the Bat juice.
[text was edited by author 2001-06-15 19:12:04]


PatientGuy
I'M Way Deep Into Nothing Special
Premium
join:2000-12-11
Arlington, VA
clubs:
ROFLOL Man talk about the last people in the world I would trust my network security to. It's got to be a joke, tell me it's a joke.:)


deltat2000
Timor Omnis Abesto
Premium
join:2000-04-13
127.0.0.1
clubs:

  Just some info for those still seeking refunds:

Dave can be contacted at the following:Registrant:

Frank,Dave (SECUREDOTNET2-DOM )
PO Box 551 Herndon, VA 20170 US
Domain Name: SECUREDOTNET.COM
Administrative Contact, Billing Contact: Frank, Dave (DF12356 ) dave@ibsnetworks.com
Frank,Dave
PO Box 551 Herndon, VA 20170 US
703-709-7770
123 123 1234
Technical Contact: Frank, Dave (DF1341 ) dave@GOIBSDSL.COM
IBS Networks 485 Springpark Place Suite 550 Herndon, VA 20170
703-709-7770
Record last updated on 25-Feb-2001.
Record expires on 08-Feb-2003. Record created on 08-Feb-2001.
Database last updated on 17-Jun-2001 21:44:00 EDT.
Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.GOIBSDSL.COM 216.32.95.130 NS2.GOIBSDSL.COM 216.64.236.3
--
The Future Is Purchased By The Present!


PatientGuy
I'M Way Deep Into Nothing Special
Premium
join:2000-12-11
Arlington, VA
clubs:

 Rats on a sinking ship.

IBS tried disputing one of my reversed credit card charges yesterday. I got a call from the bank asked me to write down my complaint and sign it (which I did before BTW). The women from the bank said IBS claims to have offered me alternative residential service. An absolute blatant lie! IBS is just astonishing. They will say and do anything for a buck. I am honestly considering calling the Virginia States Attorney office and complaining about their business practices. These people belong in jail not in the ISP business.


biv
Bbr Biv
Premium,MVM
join:2000-09-26
Baltimore, MD
Re: Rats on a sinking ship

Amen to that! (although I wish you wouldn't disparage rats that way)

mallomar

join:2001-04-11
Silver Spring, MD

reply to PatientGuy
Re: Rats on a sinking ship.

How does the reverse-credit-card-charges thing work? My credit card was charged (for my IBS residential DSL contract) in August 2000, so I assumed it was too long ago to be reversible.
[text was edited by author 2001-06-22 12:51:49]


PatientGuy
I'M Way Deep Into Nothing Special
Premium
join:2000-12-11
Arlington, VA
clubs:

I split paid my $1400 two-year contract with two cards. One MNBA Corporate Master Card from work and one Bank of America personal Visa check card. I reversed charges 4 months after the charges appeared on the statements. Both banks had the 60-day rule. First I called the banks and ask for the forms to reverse charges. Bank of America took the info over the phone and asked me to send a letter of confirmation. MBNA just sent me a form to fill out. I assembled copies of my contract, copies of the E-mail letter of termination, copies of IBS Web statements regarding residential customers and I wrote a letter describing the situation. I explained that unlike most purchases, there was no way to know if the services had been rendered until the contract had run out. On the MBNA form I checked off "Goods or Services not received" as my reason for the request. I sent this package to both banks and both credited me without another word. It's worth a try. It's the only way you'll ever see a dime from IBS and you get ALL your money back.

mallomar

join:2001-04-11
Silver Spring, MD

Unfortunately, I paid for my contract last August, so I'm way beyond the 60-day rule. And I just called the credit card people to confirm that.

I'm filling out the bankruptcy claim form now (since it's due by June 28), although I'm sure I won't see a nickel of the money IBS owes me.


hndrcks
Consider Alternatives

join:1999-11-15
Silver Spring, MD
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reply to kingdomware
Talk about a Cheesy Website!

Sure, I'm going to trust my network security to people who place rainbow marquee trailing streamers on the mouse cursor?

Once again, Dave Frank shows that his lack of business ethics are only exceeded by his horrid website design skills. Did anybody else think that the IBS page sucked ass too? Where does he find these web designers? Under a rock?

bflong

join:2000-12-10
Milwaukee, WI

 reply to Anon
Re: Anybody heard anything final about IBS Networks?

Yeahh!!! I just got reimbursed by my Visa card company for the $330.00 remaining on my 12 month contract. I did have to submit tons of documents, but luckily I kept them all including my recept for insured and registered return of my IDSL modem.

I have DEFINITELY learned to charge any contractual purchase like this in the future just for the added insurance.

I wish the best of luck to others.

I am now a RoadRunner customer and absolutely LOVE my service, it's 15 times faster than my IDSL and very reliable - although it is more than what I would like to spend since I am not a cable customer, I am joping for more competion in the future.


PatientGuy
I'M Way Deep Into Nothing Special
Premium
join:2000-12-11
Arlington, VA
clubs:
All right! I'm glad to hear of your victory. BTW IBS just shut down my E-mail account. It still functioned even though I had received my refunds months ago. So long IBS.
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