nazzurus
join:2003-03-18
Newark, CA
|  AOL is ANTI-GAMING.....
Aol is anti-gaming. They have no regards for gamers. In my area around 10 people that are on aol broadband are unable to play any games online due to high latency. Good Job AOHell on making it so "downloads are good" but latency and routing is all screwed up. Your awesome. Im picked up as an east coast users instead of a west coast user. Check this out.
»/quality/nil/1025759
»tso.speakeasy.net/tsoping.htm |
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KevNYC
Premium
join:2002-03-31
Seattle, WA
| I stand corrected
[text was edited by author 2003-03-27 17:54:10] |
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Joey
Premium,MVM
join:2001-09-18
Tallahassee, FL
| reply to nazzurus
Yea I have heard that pings aren't too great for the west coast.
Have you tried connecting with PPPoE yet? That may help.
BTW: Tweaking won't affect pings...
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wathuck
@160.253.x.x | This is all old news. Everyone knows that people on the west coast are better off playing on the servers on the east side. |
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thebombs12
Mr. Bombs
join:2001-10-23
San Francisco, CA | said by wathuck:
This is all old news. Everyone knows that people on the west coast are better off playing on the servers on the east side.
yup. i always play east and have no problems. |
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CSManiac
join:2002-05-22
Ithaca, NY | Thats cause they route everything through virginia right? Why do they do that? why don't they route west coast through west coast? |
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MarkyD
Premium
join:2002-08-20
Oklahoma City, OK
clubs:
 ·Cox HSI
| reply to nazzurus
AOL's headquarters is in Dulles, Va. Until recently, AOL has not had much of a concern for gamers, since the member base is mostly dial up anyway. My opinion is that will all change with the recent push for Broadband. Maybe we'll see AOL set up some west coast routers/servers? One can only hope. I do know that gaming/pings have been fairly decent for me when I join east coast games. I'm in Oklahoma, kinda in the middle, and east coast servers are always better. |
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thebombs12
Mr. Bombs
join:2001-10-23
San Francisco, CA
·Astound Broadband
 ·America Online
| yes. to support donnelsonM's argument, here is a visual route from visualware's website. |
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Perrin
Go Blue
Premium
join:2003-01-04
Godley, TX
clubs:  | reply to nazzurus
Here's my latency test through this site about 3 minutes ago, using the PPPoE set up.
»/quality/nil/1026521
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H0LLYW000D
join:2002-03-11
Reseda, CA
| reply to thebombs12
"Aol is anti-gaming. They have no regards for gamers."
Well they where never really setup for gaming in the first place  And yeah I hope the start adding servers on the west cost so we can get lower pings and latency........
I freaking hate having a high ping through AOL and not been able to do a dam thing about it (beside switch ISP) I wish there was a way we could do something but its aol and there service we use.... |
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Meteor Dive
Premium,MVM
join:2001-08-31
Silver Spring, MD
·Covad Communications
| To broaden DonnelsonM's statement a little more, here's picture outlining a typical route of Californian customers to a game server in Los Angeles.
As you see, it's a large loop back and forth since AOL's Headquarter's is station in Dulles VA. Your route goes from the West then to the East and then back to the West. Thus, latency will be high.
This why we all suggest you using game servers stationed in the east since you have far less latency since the hops to the servers after hitting AOL HQ will be much less distant.
Only until AOL sets up another office/routers/e.t.c down around the west will the west customers see a drop in latency.
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[text was edited by author 2003-03-28 02:30:08] |
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MarkyD
Premium
join:2002-08-20
Oklahoma City, OK
clubs:
·Cox HSI
| Bombs and Meteor-thanks for the extra explanation. That helps to illustrate what is really happening and causing such high latency for the gamers out there! The moral of the story, kids: PLAY ON EAST COAST SERVERS FOR LOWER PINGS!  |
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CSManiac
join:2002-05-22
Ithaca, NY
| The distance shouldn't really matter though if the signals are traveling through fiber optics. It must be the routing itself that is giving west coasters bad ping times. If it were fiberoptics, and saying meteordive's diagram is 6000 miles total, theoretically you would have a ping of 32 ms. Double that for outside causes and your still looking at a decent ping. t=d/v (6000 miles or 9656064m)/(3*10^8 speed of light) = 32 ms. |
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Meteor Dive
Premium,MVM
join:2001-08-31
Silver Spring, MD
·Covad Communications
| said by CSManiac  :
The distance shouldn't really matter though if the signals are traveling through fiber optics. It must be the routing itself that is giving west coasters bad ping times. If it were fiberoptics, and saying meteordive's diagram is 6000 miles total, theoretically you would have a ping of 32 ms. Double that for outside causes and your still looking at a decent ping. t=d/v (6000 miles or 9656064m)/(3*10^8 speed of light) = 32 ms.
It's too bad we're running mostly copper lines here though. Add hops into and averages, possible bridge taps or MTUs hehe, weather conditions, and line statistics and it doesn't apply any longer.
Fiber Optics do actually perform excellent in the manner you described above. Likewise, such services are expensive.
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CSManiac
join:2002-05-22
Ithaca, NY | oo ok. I thought there was a big push to convert everything to fiber optics. Especially for heavily used cross country lines. whats a bridge tap, what do u mean by line statistics? |
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Meteor Dive
Premium,MVM
join:2001-08-31
Silver Spring, MD
·Covad Communications
| said by CSManiac :
oo ok. I thought there was a big push to convert everything to fiber optics. Especially for heavily used cross country lines. whats a bridge tap, what do u mean by line statistics?
Line stats:
»Re: Did You Know?
Bridge Tap:
»DSL FAQ »Bridge Tap?
MTU (Maintenance Test Unit):
»DSL FAQ » My DSL disconnects when I answer the phone
Likewise, MTUs and bridge taps shouldn't be on any Telephone line where DSL is services but few has them on once in a blue moon. I'm just noting some extreme factors there
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[text was edited by author 2003-03-28 20:47:03] |
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Leetpenguin
join:2002-05-11
Vestal, NY | I live on east cost and I play on T3 servers IN MY AREA and damn thing has ping around 200 too much lag... aol is evil and should learn from road runner... there such a noob isp =( |
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thebombs12
Mr. Bombs
join:2001-10-23
San Francisco, CA | first of all people who live near you aren't having this problem. second of you should post a tweak test click here before you make any judgments. and aol is not a n00b isp. |
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