RoKmAn
join:2000-09-09
East Elmhurst, NY | reply to PatientGuy
Re: Comedy Skit
Megapath/Northpoint line UP again. Very weird stuff. I thought I was already swapped but thats not the case. For some strange reason, my NorthPoint circuit is back up. |
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Anon |  Rokman on again, off again, on again...
Every time one of you reports something about your lines being back up, I go and check mine just in case someone screwed up and put me back on.
I guess after getting months of free DSL after Phoenix died I shouldn't complain too much.
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Hello. My name is Chipinphilly. You killed my DSL. Prepare to die. |
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Network Guy
join:2000-08-25
New York
 ·PHONE POWER
·Broadvox Direct
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to JPCass
Re: NP Circuit Deathwatch: Up or Down?
Nah.. You can tell that your line is definitely down for good when the TTL expires while pinging your address from a different line. My modem still synchronized the Sunday after my line was initially brought down, but there was no connectivity to the gateway at my ISP. I try to ping my old IP address from my Telocity/Verizon line, and the final destination hop to my former ISP's network returns 'TTL expired in transit.' When I try to trace my old IP address, the packet is ping ponged in the last two hops until it finally terminates the trace at the set max of 30 hops. Depressing, but true. GOD IT SUCKS TO KNOW NETWORKING WHEN SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPENS!!!! |
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RoKmAn
join:2000-09-09
East Elmhurst, NY
| Traceroute to my MegaPath/NorthPoint line from Speakeasy/Covad
Tracing route to 64.7.24.x over a maximum of 30 hops
1 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms 192.168.2.254
2 10 ms 20 ms 10 ms 64.81.210.1
3 20 ms 30 ms 30 ms 63.251.76.59
4 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms 216.52.192.2
5 30 ms 20 ms 30 ms 157.130.74.105
6 30 ms 30 ms 20 ms 146.188.233.58
7 30 ms 20 ms 30 ms 152.63.80.129
8 30 ms 30 ms 30 ms 157.130.76.78
9 30 ms 31 ms 30 ms 216.35.162.19
10 20 ms 20 ms 40 ms 209.185.9.42
11 40 ms 40 ms 40 ms 216.33.96.147
12 50 ms 60 ms 50 ms 209.185.9.97
13 50 ms 61 ms 50 ms 216.32.223.83
14 50 ms 60 ms 60 ms 216.32.223.51
15 60 ms 61 ms 70 ms 216.35.48.254
16 60 ms 50 ms 60 ms 64.7.24.x
Trace complete. |
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Network Guy
join:2000-08-25
New York
·PHONE POWER
·Broadvox Direct
·Verizon Online DSL
| Tracing route to whk-88-xxx.wltdsl.net [209.34.88.xxx]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 165 ms 199 ms 186 ms OMAR-NT2 [10.12.12.2]
2 179 ms 158 ms 188 ms dsl-64-192-208-xxx.telocity.com [64.192.208.xxx]
3 209 ms 188 ms 199 ms 10.20.42.1
4 186 ms 198 ms 188 ms fe14-1-amux2.nyc.tlct.net [64.34.48.83]
5 214 ms 188 ms 198 ms vlan20-core2.nyc.tlct.net [64.34.48.34]
6 190 ms 210 ms 184 ms 166.90.137.209
7 199 ms 188 ms 198 ms gigaethernet5-0.core2.NewYork1.Level3.net [209.2
44.12.45]
8 204 ms * 174 ms so-4-1-0.mp2.NewYork1.level3.net [209.247.10.45]
9 200 ms 197 ms 199 ms 209.247.9.90
10 174 ms * 179 ms loopback0.core2.Weehawken1.Level3.net [209.247.2
.2]
11 175 ms 199 ms 199 ms gigaethernet6-0.ipcolo2.Weehawken1.Level3.net [2
09.247.7.26]
12 195 ms 199 ms 198 ms 63.211.72.186
13 177 ms 199 ms 194 ms 63.211.72.1
14 199 ms 208 ms 185 ms 63.211.72.186
15 200 ms 199 ms 210 ms 63.211.72.1
16 180 ms 199 ms 199 ms 63.211.72.186
17 215 ms 190 ms 199 ms 63.211.72.1
18 * 203 ms 199 ms 63.211.72.186
19 * 205 ms 189 ms 63.211.72.1
20 184 ms 198 ms 198 ms 63.211.72.186
21 190 ms 199 ms 209 ms 63.211.72.1
22 175 ms 198 ms 185 ms 63.211.72.186
23 174 ms 199 ms 199 ms 63.211.72.1
24 214 ms 179 ms 308 ms 63.211.72.186
25 * 178 ms 198 ms 63.211.72.1
26 213 ms 189 ms 199 ms 63.211.72.186
27 210 ms 198 ms 198 ms 63.211.72.1
28 * * 188 ms 63.211.72.186
29 185 ms 199 ms 199 ms 63.211.72.1
30 194 ms 198 ms 209 ms 63.211.72.186
Trace complete. |
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Network Guy
join:2000-08-25
New York | reply to RoKmAn
By the way, the latency on all hops on the trace I ran is high because I did the trace from a RAS dial up connection to my DSL line at home. The trace was ran to my former Evolving Edge Communications/NorthPoint line from my Telocity/Verizon line. |
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mondoz
join:2000-08-26
Houston, TX
| reply to JPCass
The comedy continues....
It looks like my DSL did finally die, and THEY TOOK MY PHONE LINE WITH IT!!!
My IDSL died sometime Friday afternoon, and then early Saturday morning my regular phone line died. No dial tone.
After telling SWB about it on Saturday, they called me on Sunday and told me they couldn't get a dial tone out of the CO...
They just called me today, from my apartment complex, telling me that "There's a problem with the digital side, there's no problem with the physical wires." They said they'd have to send someone to look at the "digital stuff".
Sigh...
No DSL, no dial tone for a dialup modem... |
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Anon | Quick, go out and buy a laptop and a digital cellular phone!
Sounds like _me_ when I need a fix.
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Hello. My name is Chipinphilly. You killed my DSL. Prepare to die. |
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Anon | reply to JPCass
Can you believe this, after two weeks of being up on Covad and being told we would immediately lose our Northpoint connection, I just telneted into our Northpoint router from off site and can connect to it. I will see how long this stays up. |
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SparkChaser
BURY BECK
Premium
join:2000-06-06
Downingtown, PA
 ·Verizon FIOS
 ·Comcast
| reply to mondoz
said by mondoz:
My IDSL died sometime Friday afternoon, and then early Saturday morning my regular phone line died. No dial tone.
Did you check the IDSL line for a dial tone? Maybe they switch them.
I'm waiting for the same thing to happen here. I ordered a second phone line but my IDSL line is still connected to something since I'm getting sync signal from the modem. There are 3 pairs of wires (2 live) coming into my house and I waiting to see how they scramble them. I marked the box outside so I can see when it's been opened.
Great fun, huh? Come on Comcast and cable.
Ron |
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johnpsheppard
@207.103.x.x | reply to JPCass
Telocity called me last night and told me that it would be at least 120 days before they had an agreement in my area (conshohocken, PA). The guy making the call told me that I am better off finding another provider. |
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SparkChaser
BURY BECK
Premium
join:2000-06-06
Downingtown, PA
·Verizon FIOS
·Comcast
| said by johnpsheppard:
Telocity called me last night
They CALLED you? I know people from conshohocken are special (my mother is from there;)) but to get a call.
I guess they're trying to get rid of all the problem cases like me. I don't expect to see DSL again until Verizon does something with the lines and starts offering it in our area (West Bradford, Chester County)themselves. By that time cable should be in and working.
Ron
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RJThiel
join:2001-03-16
Champlin, MN
| reply to JPCass
I Give Up!
Here in Minnesota, I went down about 10 seconds after I received the email from Verio about Northpoint. That was back in March. I immediately ordered Telocity through Rhythms as this was my only choice through my CO. I've read the Telocity cancel posts, but to date, I've heard nothing. However, I'm still waiting to hear from Rhythms.
I tried AT&T Broadband and found I'm not "upgraded" in my area of the Twin Cities. Their customer service says late fall. An AT&T lineman I stopped on the street says they're not coming in the fall, maybe never. He feels AT&T is trying to cut expenses and rolling internet service to my neighborhood is probably out.
I tried Qwest and they said at 13,350ft., I'm too far from the CO. I replied with, "Then how the heck did a slack-off, no-account, two-bit company like Northpoint get me a line that ran 768down and 612up??? The operator replied, "We're regulated and they were not."
Next I'm going to call Starband. I'm sure they'll tell me the planet I'm on is too far from their satellite. |
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creepndth
join:2000-12-21
San Francisco, CA | slack-off, no-account? two bit? ouch. a lot of good people worked at northpoint. |
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SparkChaser
BURY BECK
Premium
join:2000-06-06
Downingtown, PA
·Verizon FIOS
·Comcast
| reply to RJThiel
said by Oredog:
I immediately ordered Telocity through Rhythms as this was my only choice through my CO.
I just received my "Dear Ron" call from Telocity. They told me that they were going to hook me up with Rhythms but they're going out of business so they don't have any choice but to drop me. I think he meant Northpoint. Sounded like a telemarketing set up where people were calling to deliver a message not really knowing what they're talking about.
Remember if Rhythms goes down, you heard it here first;).
BTW-From my experience technically NP was a pretty good company. I never had I day out in a year. I called them once to install and never had to again. Too bad they didn't have the business savvy to go with it. I'm not sure anybody can make it except the Bells.
Ron |
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2DSLorNot2DSL
join:2000-09-20
Minneapolis, MN
| reply to RJThiel
Re: I give up...
Hello fellow Gopher/Viking...
My old DSL line was NPNT, bounced from ISP Phoenix to Telocity.
I'm in St Louis Park, MN and close enough to the CO (10-12k feet), so Qwest'll have 640k DSL up for me in 2 weeks. I'm using VISI/Vector Internet Services for my new ISP on the Qwest line, and'll be paying $30 to Qwest and $20 to the ISP, with the first month free, and no setup fees, and it is month to month.
I had the option of using Qwest, Rhythms, or Covad (even though the butt-wipes at Telocity said they couldn't service me any longer, after stringing me along for 3 weeks).
Leave a note about what you find for broadband and the prices, if you don't mind. |
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Anon
|  reply to PatientGuy
South Jersey - Time of Death: 4/24/00
Well, it looks like they finally brought down the MoorestownCO (South Jersey)...When I got home last night my IDSL line was DOA.
Based upon the last email I received, it looks like everything went dark around 2:30 PM.
I checked with some alternate providers but am leaning towards Comcast @ Home and a cable modem...I filled out the online request form last night.
So Carrie, I guess our luck ran out?
[text was edited by author 2001-04-25 09:21:25] |
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Anon | Maybe the last man standing wasn't?
Congratulations on your longevity. I'm about to call for my IW appointment.
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Hello. My name is Chipinphilly. You killed my DSL. Prepare to die. |
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RJThiel
join:2001-03-16
Champlin, MN
| reply to 2DSLorNot2DSL
Re: I give up...
I started with Phoenix through NPT at $39.95/mo- setup, connection and service were exellent! Then I had to move from one side of Champlin to the other at the time of the Megapath buyout. They wouldn't hook me up so I had to switch to Verio through NPT at $49.99. Also, setup, connection and service were outstanding. Then the shutdown of NPT took me out. I'm on dialup now. I still have Telocity saying they'll be out through Rhthyms. |
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RJThiel
join:2001-03-16
Champlin, MN
| reply to creepndth
Re: I Give Up!
I certainly don't mean the general staff or techs- unlike some people in other posts, I had excellent service, a reliable connection and believe it or not- quick response times. The barb was pointed at the crack upper management that took a fine group of employees, a great technology and a bunch of people's money(like mine) and flushed it. Sorry if anyone took it wrong- especially all those field techs that busted their a... keeping their bosses in the money. |
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