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Re: VoIP Pros and Cons, Cisco ata188 ? Well, 1740 isnt all that expensive for voip and a PBX, but there is no way in heck that I would use something I had to take notes on.
I dont think that was your question though, the ata is really designed for use with a cisco PBX where the remote users connect to the PBX via ATA's. It is designed to talk to a brain be it a call manager or a custom call routing server. It is possible to use the ata's with a PBX ,but youll need something to sit at the switch which will direct the ATA's. I'm not even sure myself exactly how to do it on a non cisco system, although if you took a router and feed the circuits in and back to the switch, then setup that router to manage the ATA's, the ATA's could seize trunks and make calls but would not have any PBX features.
There are other products (MCK for example) which allow the actual legacy PBX phones to connect over IP, but they have engineered a specific product with the PBX makers help.
If what you want is to use analog telephones to talk with voip then you might consider plain old gateways which are in the same price as the ATA, but wont come with all the features of PSTN service. Thats really what Vonage and the others are about....giving you PSTN features through VoIP. Anyway i'm not sure what you wanted but beware of anyone selling anything on this board!! |
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systems2000What? You Say It's Fixed. Hah
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Cyberspace | reply to Jealousy
Jealousy, Why don't you register and enjoy all the benefits of being a member here?
Take a look at the VoIP product info we e-Mail to prospective clients.
If you can't get the product in your country. let us know and we can help you with the getting to the right person at the factory. |
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I haven't done this myself but have spoken with someone who has.
They say you can just connect the ATA186's line one phone cord to an analog port on the PBX just as you would connect a fax machine.
Just pick up the phone anywhere in your office and pick up the line that the ATA is connected into.
That will give you a dial tone from the ATA that you can place your VOIP calls through.
If you want it to automatically route calls, you may need a PBX call-through device like the one Quicknet is selling. |
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I haven't done this myself but have spoken with someone who has.
They say you can just connect the ATA186's line one phone cord to an analog port on the PBX just as you would connect a fax machine.
Just pick up the phone anywhere in your office and pick up the line that the ATA is connected into.
That will give you a dial tone from the ATA that you can place your VOIP calls through.
If you want it to automatically route calls, you may need a PBX call-through device like the one Quicknet is selling.
If he has a provider like FWD or has been configured to a call terminations gateway. In the latter he has no incoming number. He could do ATA to ATA that way, but I assume PSTN since he mentioned PBX.
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As i understand, i can connect ata to my pbx, and incomming calls will be forwarded to secretary, BUT, HOW to dial tru this specific line? Should i program the pbx somehow? Like, if number starts with 8, it uses ata line... |
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Basically it depends on what you want to use the ATA for, do you want to use it as a gateway for ip phones to call PSTN, or for PSTN to call IP?. I am going to assume based on your previous posts that you have a service similar to vonage and already have the headend setup and working and simply want to connect an ATA-188 as a line to your PBX. Simply plug it into a single or two (depending on your VoIP provider) analog truck ports on your PBX. Then setup your ring groups on the PBX so that calls incoming on those two trunks will ring wherever you want them to ring. That handles incoming calls, for outbound calls you will want to setup the lines with a different group access code normally this is 9, for the ATA's lines you would make this some other number (ie 8) then you simply dial 8 and the number instead of 9 and the number. Alternately you can map these two lines directly to a line key on your phone, agian directions for this depend on the system.
If you are trying to setup the ATA for some other purpose, forgive me... mabey this info will help someone else, lol.
email me if you have more questions and ill post the answers here.
Mike DeLuca
Business Computer Services
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| Thanks, that helps a bit.
I want to use these ATA to connect two offices directly, and nothing else, so, no provider etc needed, right? But, how will my ata know what to dial, to reach that other ata?
PS maybe some instructions how to program Panasonic PBX? I hate to call telecom serviceman everytime we need to make some changes... |
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I want to use these ATA to connect two offices directly, and nothing else, so, no provider etc needed, right? But, how will my ata know what to dial, to reach that other ata?
PS maybe some instructions how to program Panasonic PBX? I hate to call telecom serviceman everytime we need to make some changes...
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Buy two ATA's and configure them as point-to-point, terminate the ATA into a line port on that panasonic, or pay to have it done. You wont need a provider, but I would consider FWD becuase it just makes things so much eaiser and its FREE.
I think Mike is right, in this situation you could use an outdial of "8" or whatever isnt taken so you would know exactly what line tied the two offices together. Because FWD or any other service handles call negotiation and gives you an incoming number you would simply hit 8 and then dial the number....or you can have the system always dial so it connects just like a ring down, which means that as soon as you go off hook the system dials the number. Other wise the ATA dials by IP address and you might have to have static address, ect. You are in in effect making an FX line between the two offices. Note that with the ATA there are line supervision problems you would not want to ever put ATA lines on hold or Park, redial has also had problems
where I tested. I have not tested Panasonic. |
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| Also, one other thing, keep in mind this is not a system to system "Trunk", so you will have to dial the remote end and setup ring groups on the remote end, there isnt a way on a panasonic KXT or DBS to use this as a E&M tie line or anything other then a straight analog trunk (meaning it wont work like a T1 or E&M would, simply allowing you to pickup and dial an extension in the other office. It will allow you to pickup and dial the other office's Voip address, causing it to ring at the other office on that incoming trunk (then presumably requiring a transfer to its final destination, either by a human or an auto attendant). KXT programing is easy, DBS programing is sorta a pain without the book, and tends to be model specific. Theres also another panasonic system im not familiar with thats older. The KXT is a home/small office grade system (maxes out at 8x32 i think) the DBS is considerably more and uses expansion cards, up to 1024 extensions i believe on a 576HD with expansions.
Mike |
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systems2000What? You Say It's Fixed. Hah
join:2001-11-29
Cyberspace | reply to Jealousy
Here is a couple of graphics to help (from MultiTech). |
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 CamPremium
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Luther, OK | reply to Cobravert19
Maybe you could use a Mitel Smart Dialer to dial "shortcuts" to the remote extensions. |
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