MrTangent
join:2001-12-28
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| That's a funny, if ineffectual way around it
Instead of being greeted with music when played however, downloaders will be greeted by Madonna herself, asking them "What the f--- do you think you?re doing?" Only Madonna! Hahah. That's just funny. I can imagine some of her fans going, "what the hell!?" when they hear that. It won't work on a large scale but it might deter a few fans from pirating her music. I can only hope so. Although she is a millionaire many times over and doesn't really "need" the income, "fans" should be supporting the artist. Especially the independent, lesser known ones.
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Cyron
join:2002-09-24
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AkumalDave
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I predict the "What the f..." version will be more valuable than the "real" single when all is said and done.
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vlad7
join:2002-12-30 | reply to MrTangent
I like better to hear the "What the f--- do you think you are doing?" instead of the song.
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CO_Chris
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TheHelpful1
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I totally agree with supporting the lesser known artists. I just bought my first cd in..oh about 5 years. Group called "Evanescence". Really great group from Ak.
"Artists" such as "mad donna" give true artists a bad name.
I always had this distinction. If you play an actual instrument (Voice doesnt count) then i call you an artist, e.g. Michelle Branch, Sarah McLachlan, etc.
If you just sing, but write your own songs, then i call you a performer, e.g. Andrea Coor, etc.
But if you just sing, and dont even write your own songs, then i just call you "entertainment", e.g. most others.
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C_
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thats what you should except to hear when you download something as crappy as madonna's music  |
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CO_Chris
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djrobx
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I love it. I fired up Kazaa just to find the bad version. 
$1.50 for bon-a-fide unencrypted 192kbps MP3 is great with me. I bought it just out of principle (although her website sucks). At least she's giving a proper alternative to piracy, which is more than I can say for the rest of the record industry. The 7 megabyte MP3 downloaded at full speed (410KB/sec on my line). I love that it gives you the choice of 128, 192 or "Windows Media with DRM". Who would pick that?
You also get a special message from Madonna thanking you for your support (which acoustically sounds like it was recorded at the same time as "what the f..." messsage was LOL).
Wish more artists would make their songs available on MP3 like this.
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Maxo
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quote:
you play an actual instrument (Voice doesnt count) then i call you an artist
Singing is definitely an art form. Listen to Ella Fitzgerald or Buddy Holiday. If that's not art then neither is the Moonlight Sonata.
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said by djrobx  :
I love it. I fired up Kazaa just to find the bad version.
I wonder how many people are doing that just this minute. Come to think of it, I might do the same.
Dangit! I got the real song on the first shot...Now I have to delete this crap.
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BosstonesOwn
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err
u got a place one can download this ??? i use linux and no p2p but i really wanna get a laugh outta this. |
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boogie74
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Re: That's a funny, if ineffectual way around it
said by Cyron :
Do you know how much a Madonna concert ticket costs? If I support an artist, I do it buying concert tickets, and there's now way in hell I'm paying $85 dollars for a general admission ticket.
Despite what you wish to believe, the money from concert ticket sales isn't cash that goes to the artist. Bands go on concert for one thing and one thing only: to promote record sales.
Did you honestly believe it was just coincidence that concerts always tend to focus on ONE album- the latest one out? And they play the CRAP that some hate! Oh, they'll play some of their best stuff to motivate the audience- but out of the 10-12 songs (at most) that are played, at least 7 to 9 of them will be from the same, newest album (usually the title of the tour, no less).
In closing, concerts aren't for making money from ticket sales- they're for promoting record sales.
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MrTangent
join:2001-12-28
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| said by boogie74 :
Despite what you wish to believe, the money from concert ticket sales isn't cash that goes to the artist. Bands go on concert for one thing and one thing only: to promote record sales.
Did you honestly believe it was just coincidence that concerts always tend to focus on ONE album- the latest one out? And they play the CRAP that some hate! Oh, they'll play some of their best stuff to motivate the audience- but out of the 10-12 songs (at most) that are played, at least 7 to 9 of them will be from the same, newest album (usually the title of the tour, no less).
In closing, concerts aren't for making money from ticket sales- they're for promoting record sales.
Boogie
Agreed for the most part. It should also be said that a great number of artists don't tour. For instance, a lot of bands I listen to (various noise/ambient/experimental/industrial) are unable to tour due to financial restraints. They're also logistically unable to travel to where their fan base is (it's not unusual for, say, a Swedish band like Covenant to be big in America and shipping all your gear to play a foreign gig is very expensive).
It's also a bit hard for some electronic (or complex studio bands like Mr. Bungle) bands to "translate" their extremely dense sonic maelstrom to a live venue. Often bands like NIN/Skinny Puppy are left putting a great deal of the show on DAT since it's not possible to play 30-40 synth parts at one time. And for this limitation a lot of bands aren't able to tour, or have a large label behind them to help pay for the tour expenses. Anyway, tours are only really profitable if you're a big artist. It's a double-edged sword in that way. And that's why buying the music is especially important to the independent and lesser known artists. Otherwise they may not be around to make music next time.
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ravital
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said by boogie74 :
Despite what you wish to believe, the money from concert ticket sales isn't cash that goes to the artist. Bands go on concert for one thing and one thing only: to promote record sales.
There are plenty of examples of recording and previously recorded artists giving concerts to make money. Janis Ian comes to mind - in 25 years she has gotten from her label nothing but statements showing HER owing THEM money. So she makes her money from merchandising and concert tours, and it's difficult to say she concentrates on one album, given she hasn't recorded any in a while. Joni Mitchell is another one - if and when she still does concerts. I'm sure there are plenty more, despite what you wish to believe. |
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Doctor Olds
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said by boogie74 :
In closing, concerts aren't for making money from ticket sales- they're for promoting record sales.
Simply put, your info is wrong. Artists make much more $$$ by touring than CD sales.
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Maxo
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In closing, concerts aren't for making money from ticket sales- they're for promoting record sales.
He is right that bands like Madonna do tour only to promote their able. Yes there are bands that do not tour because of this. Lots of smaller bands tour only for fun or for various other reasons. But with large bands it is a different story. First of all they don't set the price. The fact that her tickets cost that much is not up to Madonna. This problem is the reason that Pearl Jam was sueing ticket master about 10 years ago. I've heard that Rage Against the Machine has tried to fight this also.
For a band like Atom & His Package or Alien Sex Fiend the prices still aren't decided by the band. There is some influence by the band because usually the band will charge a flat fee and then ask for a certain percentage of the money that comes from the door. But comparing Madonna's touring reasons to those of some small underground group you listen to you are comparing apples to oranges.
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TheHelpful1
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Maxo, i'm only 20! My music database is a bit skewed in that it only dates to the mid to late 90's and on.
But i will check on those and and take your word for it.
I guess i should have been more precise to say "Modern vocalists" |
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Maxo
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| I'm 22. It's true that most modern vocalist are just performers and not artists. This is true for older bands also like Tom Jones n' such. They are performers. Madonna is also a performer.
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ComputerGod
join:2002-10-13
Marietta, GA
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Just because she is already a millionaire does that mean she should cease her pursuit of generating revenue? Yes, she is being rather stupid for taking this avenue in dealing with her bottled up angst against those who do not value her music as much as she would have them to. It is also a bit ridiculous to suggest that someone who has already accrued large amounts of money should become careless as to how the product of their life's work is acquired. I do think this tactic will have an adverse effect on those fans who are on the receiving end of her beratement, but that is obviously an acceptable risk to her.
I hardly think you would like for it to be said that you are already making 40,000.00/year, and are able to meet your expenses so you don't "need" any further compensation. Is anyone really in a position to say that X amount of income is sufficient for any one human, and anything above is negligible? I know that personally, as my income has increased, so have my tastes and standard of living. Even Bill Gates can live beyond his means. |
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