cpr2k
This Won'T Hurt..
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join:2002-02-02
San Marcos, CA
| reply to JacksGhost
Re: Justification?
I will never understand why people just don't get the fact that it costs money to provide a service. Typical politicians. They raise our taxes and fees because "things cost more than they used to" and "they have to invest in infrastructure" but pound on businesses as if they don't have the same issues. If LA thinks they can get better service for less, they should find it and go for it. The way things are going, there's going to be a mass migration of businesses out of California and the whole place can be left to the illegal immigrants. Maybe the recall attempt for Gov. Dufus will get legs and we can get leadership that has a clue. Alas, I think there's little hope for us here in "The people's republic of California". *Sigh*
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JacksGhost
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join:2002-12-29
Buffalo, NY
| "there's going to be a mass migration of businesses out of California "
Whats wierd.. I think Cali should learn from the 'Cuomo' mistakes of New York.
Consumer protection is needed to certain extents, but when it starts costing those same consumers their jobs as businesses look for a less' hostile ' market to work in.
The 'Cuomo Effect' stirred a lot of businesses up in the area. When Nafta went into effect, they ALL decided not to stick around. The industrial centers that USED to be in Western N.Y. are all but gone. The few remaining have stripped operations down to the bare minimums needed to get by.
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kfsutops
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join:2002-08-19
Brandon, FL
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said by cpr2k  :
I will never understand why people just don't get the fact that it costs money to provide a service. Typical politicians. They raise our taxes and fees because "things cost more than they used to" and "they have to invest in infrastructure" but pound on businesses as if they don't have the same issues.
Is this why Adelphia raised prices? To update their infrastructure. Come on! They raised prices to aid in their effort to recover from bankruptcy and pay the fat cats and move them to Colorado.
In Palm Beach County we went through a local rate increase and a couple months later got a notice of another increase. Are they upgrading "their infrastructure"? The people here say they are. But the basic cable here still has the same crappy ass 52 channels that you could get 15 years ago, while other areas can get 99 channels. No channel additions, no more digital channels added, no
nothing but a nice increase. For what?
I for one have copied this report and will be forwarding it to our local government in Boynton Beach. Maybe they can do something about it here too. Probably not, but I am not one to just sit here and bitch about the crappy product Adelphia provides in Palm Beach County. I let my local officials know my opinions.
I for one think it is great the California is doing this. Make Adelphia produce results for price increases.
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RR Conductor
RailRoadDude
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join:2002-04-02
Redwood Valley, CA
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"Alas, I think there's little hope for us here in "The people's republic of California". *Sigh*"
How's your bomb shelter?
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MacLeech
The one and only
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SoCal
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said by kfsutops :
The people here say they are. But the basic cable here still has the same crappy ass 52 channels that you could get 15 years ago, while other areas can get 99 channels. No channel additions, no more digital channels added, no nothing but a nice increase. For what?
Why is the non-upgraded area of Boyton Beach listed as having 62 channels not including the digital channels that are also available? With Digital it seems that another 30 channels, without counting the inDemand and music only channels, are available.
Seems some upgrades have been done because I certainlly don't think the digital channel line-up was available 15 years ago, nor was the 1-way cable modem service.
And thats only for some parts of Boynton Beach, other parts apparently have been upgraded to an 80 analog channel system plus about double the number of digital channels, premium channels, inDemand channels, and audio channels of the non-upgraded area. Then don't forget the 2-way cable modem service.
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JacksGhost
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join:2002-12-29
Buffalo, NY
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"Are they upgrading "their infrastructure"? The people here say they are."
OK.. are they or are they not?
CNR1.atlsfa, CNR1.miamfl and CNR1.orlnfl.. 3 new server farms to replace 2 older ones from cnr.dad and cnr.pbc ( dade and pbc ). Along with those DHCP servers comes the DNS, TOD and other relevent boxes.
THOUSANDS of miles of fibre, switches, amps and other physical layer devices.
You do know that analog cable plants loose money. without updating the systems in florida to a 750+Mhz system, they would stand to loose out on a LOT of future revenues.
The infrastructure is/has been in the process of being built.
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cpr2k
This Won'T Hurt..
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join:2002-02-02
San Marcos, CA
| reply to RR Conductor
"How's your bomb shelter?"
What in the world has that comment got to do with anything? A typical useless post. My comment about the people's republic has to do with big government controlling the lives and finances of everyday people and businesses. You need to understand that there are hundreds of businesses, large and small, that are looking at moving out of California. If they go, they will take thousands of good paying jobs with them. A government cannot, I repeat cannot, tax and regulate it's way to prosperity.
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Hickerx2
God Bless The U.S. Military
join:2001-03-04
Franklinville, NY
| said by cpr2k :
A government cannot, I repeat cannot, tax and regulate it's way to prosperity.
Yep, just ask the NYS govt how it worked out for them.  |
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kfsutops
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join:2002-08-19
Brandon, FL
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| reply to MacLeech
said by MacLeech :
Why is the non-upgraded area of Boyton Beach listed as having 62 channels not including the digital channels that are also available? With Digital it seems that another 30 channels, without counting the inDemand and music only channels, are available.i
Good question Mac. You tell me where my other 10 channels are. You have come up with a different channel lineup for Boynton now.
Look Mac, we can debate Powerlink all day and you probably would kill me at it. But when it comes to cable, you can't argue. The cable stinks. There ARE only 52 basic channels in my area while other AREAS are getting way more than that. The basic system in BOYNTON is extremely old and you know it, Adelphia knows it, and everyone in boynton knows it.
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kfsutops
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join:2002-08-19
Brandon, FL
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| reply to JacksGhost
said by JacksGhost :
"CNR1.atlsfa, CNR1.miamfl and CNR1.orlnfl.. 3 new server farms to replace 2 older ones from cnr.dad and cnr.pbc ( dade and pbc ). Along with those DHCP servers comes the DNS, TOD and other relevent boxes.
And of course nothing mentioned about Boynton Beach.
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JacksGhost
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Buffalo, NY | Boynton beach feeds off cnr1.atlsfl . Your waiting on return feeds. |
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MacLeech
The one and only
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join:2001-07-14
SoCal
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said by kfsutops :
Good question Mac. You tell me where my other 10 channels are. You have come up with a different channel lineup for Boynton now.
After searching through about a dozen different channel line-ups for that part of Florida, I finally found 1 with a 52 channel line up. I never realized just how fragmented that part of the Florida region was... ouch. But your right, every other system surrounding yours has more channels.
said by kfsutops :
The basic system in BOYNTON is extremely old and you know it, Adelphia knows it, and everyone in boynton knows it.
Which is why Adelphia has been in the process of upgrading the entire region around State Highway 7 since they aquired those systems. Of course the bankruptcy delayed things but the area that isn't fully upgraded is shrinking pretty quickly. Sorry you seem to be stuck in one of the last to see the upgrades...
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kfsutops
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join:2002-08-19
Brandon, FL
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| said by MacLeech :
After searching through about a dozen different channel line-ups for that part of Florida, I finally found 1 with a 52 channel line up. I never realized just how fragmented that part of the Florida region was... ouch. But your right, every other system surrounding yours has more channels
Now do you understand why I get so frustrated with Adelphia? It would seem to make more sense (and cost effective) for Adelphia to have less fragmented systems and provide a more consistent service. If you check the network status page, you get about 4 listings for Boynton Beach alone with PowerLink. My issues are not so much about the channels, but the prices paid for it. People that are still on the ancient systems pay the same as people on a system with better/more channels (go ahead and throw the TOS at me on this one  ).
said by MacLeech :
Which is why Adelphia has been in the process of upgrading the entire region around State Highway 7 since they aquired those systems. Of course the bankruptcy delayed things but the area that isn't fully upgraded is shrinking pretty quickly. Sorry you seem to be stuck in one of the last to see the upgrades...
It's not your fault, but I appreciate the sentiment. Again, you say they are upgrading around State Highway 7(441). Will that effect all the people that have the old Boynton System? Or will it be again another updated system that doesn't include my area?
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