RR Conductor
RailRoadDude
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Re: Justification?
"They raise our taxes and fees because "things cost more than they used to" and "they have to invest in infrastructure" but pound on businesses as if they don't have the same issues"...
This Kodak moment brought to you by the corporate cheerleaders of America, fighting for the poor and defenseless corporations of America for over 100 years. Some of our famous clients include Exxon, American Airlines and of course, who could forget Enron. Are you tired of paying those taxes? Want to stick it to the little guy with your money problems? Do you feel you should be able to do whatever you want with nobody butting in to protect the consumer and citizens of your nation? Well if so, call us at 1-800-POLLUTE, yes that's 1-800-POLLUTE.
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pianotech
Pianotech
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New Castle, PA
| Your livelihood as well as mine depend on a robust economy, LA2. Corporations are needed. Of course, if you choose to gauge corporate America by the actions of a few high-profile cases, that's certainly your right. 
Meanwhile, CA is getting ready to borrow a record $11 billion dollars to offset a deficit.
»www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/ar···ay2.html
How do you think that will be paid for? Personally I fear big government, not big business.
*edit* added the CA $11 billion story link
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JacksGhost
Got Bottle?
join:2002-12-29
Buffalo, NY
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Hey Love2.. Those same companies you bastardized also paid a lot of workers wages over many years. Those wages inturn contributed a hefty sum of tax dollars ( any tax is hefty in my opinion ) to the Government for all the lovely dependency.. err.. social programs we have today.
Eliminate those companies and you eliminate the workforce. Your taxes go up and you have less to pay for the next cable rate increase.
Vicious circle, but you need those corporations.
Sincerely,
Jax |
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pianotech
Pianotech
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New Castle, PA | Bingo, Jax.. |
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cpr2k
This Won'T Hurt..
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"This Kodak moment brought to you by the corporate cheerleaders of America, fighting for the poor and defenseless corporations of America for over 100 years. Some of our famous clients include Exxon, American Airlines and of course, who could forget Enron. Are you tired of paying those taxes? Want to stick it to the little guy with your money problems? Do you feel you should be able to do whatever you want with nobody butting in to protect the consumer and citizens of your nation? Well if so, call us at 1-800-POLLUTE, yes that's 1-800-POLLUTE."
Once again you show how little you know and understand about economics. Perhaps if you had a real job or better still tried to run one and employ people you'd have a better idea. Let me give you a simple example. If California charges more to run a business than say Nevada or Arizona, many business will move to those states, taking the jobs they provide with them. And it's not just about businesses. If people have to pay higher personal state taxes and fees than other states; if people have a higher cost of living for things like housing and food, they will move to where they can have a higher quality of life. California has decided, among other things that illegal aliens are entitled to free health care and other social benefits. There is even a plan to offer driver's licenses to those here illegally. Also, our governor has decided to balance the budget in this state by firing teachers and increasing class size but wants to spend $220M on new housing for death row inmates. It just makes no sense. Though perhaps if we keep cutting back on education, we'll need more jail cells..
"Want to stick it to the little guy with your money problems?"
What you are missing is that businesses hire and pay "the little guy". If businesses don't succeed, there are no jobs. Your desire to screw businesses actually hurts "the little guy" more. One last example. I don't run a large business. We are six executives running a company with about 100 people. If we decide to leave the state and move the company to Nevada, who do you think gets hurt? The majority of people are employed by small businesses. Everyday people who want to work for themselves and in the process grow and hire others. These small businesses are being hurt every bit as much, if not more, than large businesses. Ask any owner of a store front business.
My suggestion is that you give all this a lot of thought. I offer the old proverb: Beware of what you wish for, you may get it.
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Hickerx2
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Franklinville, NY
| The thing that seems quite onerous, is that most of the corporate and environmental "extremists" seem to come from CA.
CA is a state that saw huge benefits from the tech explosion in the 90's. Now that all of that is history and the "refugees" are coming out of the woodwork protesting everything.
New York is a prime example of what tax-and-spend liberalism will result in. It all looks great for a few years until it comes time to pay for it. Just in case you didn't know, NY falls last in about every imaginable "ranking" there is, and places first in every "high cost of living" survey.
As Cpr2k said, most "back-seat" business owners will never have a clue how bad the wrong governmental policies can hurt a business. I just love morons like the Kennedys telling me that I should be paying my waitresses $10/hr.
Just ask NYS how well the tax-and-spend system of govt works. Like all things in life, certain things aren't pretty, but trying to tax and regulate the "ugly" aspects of life away, simply isn't feasible.
This awesome concept of "regulation" by democrats is quite evident by my most recent natural gas bill. I now owe the gas co. $2000 FOR MY HOUSE! That's how well regulation works. |
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cpr2k
This Won'T Hurt..
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San Marcos, CA
| There is a great novel written regarding these issues that I would recommend to anyone interested. It's called Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand. She goes into great detail about what happens when an attempt is made by those who want the benefits of the productivity of those who actually produce valuable products and services. The thrust of the story is about what takes place when the productive say no, no more. Very educational and available at a book store near you.
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cpr2k
This Won'T Hurt..
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"Well if so, call us at 1-800-POLLUTE, yes that's 1-800-POLLUTE.
See the thriving railroads of today, and of the future!
www.progressiverailroading.com"
Since you're such a big railroad fan, you probably don't want to call you 800 number and report the railroad. Perhaps your attack on business is just too selective.
»www.houstonreview.com/apr2002/railroad.html
»www.oregontoxics.org/railroadhistory.html
»neighbors.designcommunity.com/no···410.html
»www.usdoj.gov/opa/pr/1999/Februa···0enr.htm
»www.salmoninfo.org/news/railroadoil.htm
»www.yvwiiusdinvnohii.net/News200···pact.htm
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