bblebou
join:2001-04-09
Boston, MA
|  Westell DGNIcon (Modem Browser)
Thanks in advance,
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join:2003-05-03
USA
| Re: Westell DGNIcon (Modem Browser) Noise Margin - higher is better. indicates how much noise can increase on your DSL line before the signal is lost. Yours look very good.
Attenuation - lower is better. measures the signal loss between the CO and you. Yours look OK.
Output power - higher would compensate for higher attenutation.
Data rate - the data rate your line is provisioned for. You must've gotten Verizon DSL waaay back and never got upgraded, because those are pretty low numbers.
I sound like I know my stuff, but you can do the same by doing a quick Google search and reading through some of the links.  | |
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ZapperO
join:2001-01-27
| Hey bblebou,
If I wanted to get a copy of the Westell Modem Browser software, any suggestion on where I could download it?
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Alex G Bell
join:2002-07-02
Boston, MA | Will it work through a router? | |
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Sedated3
Shooting Rubberbands At The Stars
Premium
join:2002-11-02
Brooklyn, NY
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| Re: Westell DGNIcon (Modem Browser) said by Alex G Bell  :
Will it work through a router?
Unfortunately, no.
Best wishes,
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Pathfinder
Dazed Confused
Premium
join:2000-03-26
Mount Vernon, NY
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| I have a B90-36515. When I run the Browser I only get this tab.
Is it not compatible with this model?
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Sedated3
Shooting Rubberbands At The Stars
Premium
join:2002-11-02
Brooklyn, NY
clubs: | Re: Westell DGNIcon (Modem Browser) Yes PF! Just hit CTRL-ALT-F7 when you have that window focused. You should see five other tabs at that point.
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Pathfinder
Dazed Confused
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join:2000-03-26
Mount Vernon, NY | Re: Westell DGNIcon (Modem Browser) I knew if anyone had the answer you would.
Thanks SED.
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Shooting Rubberbands At The Stars
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join:2002-11-02
Brooklyn, NY
clubs: | Re: Westell DGNIcon (Modem Browser) You're very welcome. | |
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TrustedZero
join:2001-08-25
Claremont, CA
| Wow thats a great program, and I didn't even know it existed until today.
Just a heads up to anyone else running XP, you must disable the windows firewall for the program to work. Took me awhile to figure out why the program wasn't working :P | |
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bblebou
join:2001-04-09
Boston, MA
| Sed- you are absolutely correct. 505 down, 83 up was about it. I think I took care of it now though, should be upgraded to 1.5/128 by May 20th. Now at least, I have a way to make sure they've provisioned my service properly using the Modem Browser.
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Like a flea circus at a dog show.
join:2000-01-05
Quincy, MA | Hmm, my Westell is a B90-36R515 and the util found the modem during the install, then said it was not supported (????), then quit install! Is the '15 no good here?
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join:2001-01-27 | Re: Westell DGNIcon (Modem Browser) I'm having the same problem with the identical modem! Any tech gurus have ideas on a work-around or fix for the problem?...latest firmware already installed. | |
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join:2003-05-03
USA
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Hmm, my Westell is a B90-36R515 and the util found the modem during the install, then said it was not supported (????), then quit install! Is the '15 no good here?
Stolen from Sed's newsgroup posting :
Hi everyone, I posted the message(s) on DSLReports along with other users,
notably Dr. Dan regarding the Westell (c) Modem Browser.
Here's one of the notes verbatim, shortly after Dan was kind enough to forward
the utility to me:
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Dear Westell Users:
Just to post a message regarding the Westell utility called the modem browser,
The above discussed Westell Diagnostic Icon (c) utility [Modem Browser]
mirrored at »mbrowser1.webhop.net (which is my PWS) and is *only of any
use to owners of deprecated Westell ADSL bridge models A90-36R515,
B90-36R515/516 and C90-51x .* . If you own a newer Westell, keep reading,
Westell has made the new utility available on their website.
To install, connect your modem DIRECTLY to your NIC (ie disconnect your
router.)
After installation, focus on the program window and press *CTRL-ALT-F7* to
view line statistics.
Use the utility at your own risk. Don't change VPI/VCI or other virtual
channel config. Changing virtual channel parameters will render your
connection useless until they are returned to their old settings- this is not
a tweaking utility but rather a modem performance monitoring utility.
It will however allow you, an owner of a product and a subscriber of an ADSL
line to have some gauge of your line's signal levels and performance, a common
feature in newer products.
I believe this to fall within the fair use boundaries as I paid for my modems
as many others and continue to pay in the form of monthly bills. It provides
the customer a valuable diagnostic tool which can save both us and the ISPs
some time. Of course I will remove the utility if asked by the copyright
holder.
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If you're an owner of one of the current Westell ADSL models A90/B90-2100-*
Westell has made the A90/B90-2100 (current models) diagnostic utility
available at their website here: »https://www.westell.com/pages/verizon.jsp
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My DSL turn-up statistics:
I'm using a Verizon (East) 1500/128 ADSL line.
The stats are from my Westell B90-36R515-01
Bootstrap 1.00.00
Firmware Ver 06.01.02
Tranceiver ModemAlcatel Firmware Ver 3.8.124
Noise Margin: 30.0dB up / 16.0 dB down [**]
Output Power: 12.0dB up / 20.0 dB down
Attenuation: 31.5 dBm up / 49.5 dBm down
Data Rate: 160 kbps up / 1792 kbps down
I have seen deviation only in one reading, "NOISE MARGIN Downstream: 12.0dB -
21.5dB , usually hovering around 16-18.
Pertaining to the noise margin in dB. From what I read, it can be thought of
as a safety margin.
The utiltiies should also allow you to view HEC, FEC, CRC and instances of
sync loss. There is a logging feature which can be used to produce a graph
(with a bit of extra code).
I've posted as a followup several screen shots from the modem browser utility
for my older B90-515 modem in 0.verizon.binaries.
Reference threads on DSLReports:
»Westell Diags
- Information for the A/B/C90-36R51x browser.
»Westell Diagnostic Icon -
Another thread about the browser including links
»Westell Diagnostic Icon
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»Westell Diagnostic Icon
- Doctor Dan verifies that the utility works with C90's.
Remember to press CTRL-ALT-F7 to reveal the 'juicy' information tabs and
PLEASE do not change your VPI/VCI settings. In case you do, you can restore
them to 0*35.
This message applies ONLY to Westell ATM users. Sorry Fujitsu guys and gals 
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Sedated3
Shooting Rubberbands At The Stars
Premium
join:2002-11-02
Brooklyn, NY
clubs:
| Madness, I also have a B90-36R515; works just fine.
You're the second person who mentioned that the utility wouldn't install.
A quick observation -
I noticed that the utility available from Westell is identical to the 'older' version of the utility that some of us got from users on the site [mbrowser1.webhop.net], however the older utility is packaged with Installshield.
As a lark I tried installing the version available from Westell, fully expecting it to come back with an unsupported modem version error, however to my surprise it worked fine.
I remember that when I installed the "older" modem browser on a Westell B90-36R516 which was not upgraded to firmware 6.01.02 , the utility upgraded the modem from 6.00.08 to 6.01.02 ... I can only guess that this, and Installshield adds to the file size.
Suggestions
Try installing the one available from Westell @ »https://www.westell.com/content/download···stic.exe
If that doesn't work, try installing the older one @ »mbrowser1.webhop.net
If it still doesn't work, upgrade your modem to Firmware 6.01.02 / Tranceiver Ver: Alcatel 3.8.124 with this file: »https://www.westell.com/content/verizon/···rade.exe ...
There's a description of the upgrade here: »https://www.westell.com/pages/verizon_down_pc.jsp? however I'm unsure if the link will work due to Westell using session IDs.
If all that still doesn't work, perhaps the utility can't find your modem? (Yeah I know, I'm fishing  ) ... I remember that some of the other Westell upgrades wouldn't work without a NIC to TCP/IP binding and refused to run on my wife's laptop until I remembered removing the binding to stop DHCP freezes..
Curious.. Could you please post a screen capture? Thanks in advance.
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join:2001-01-27
| Re: Westell DGNIcon (Modem Browser) Hey Sedated,
Using the diagnostic.exe, I was able to setup and successfully use the tool. Works great! Here is my info:
P.S. Using the built-in Win XP PPOE client, I was able to get a speedtest of 1454/379 using an old d-link DI-701 I was able to get 1411/372...strange!
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Alex G Bell
join:2002-07-02
Boston, MA
| Hey guys:
I tried installing the software on my trusty old B90 515 and it would not load. I, however, also own a newer B90 516. When I tried installing it on that modem it installed and ran.
Out of curiosity, after I sucessfully completed the install, I then rehooked up my old 515 and tried to run the installed program on it: it ran fine!!!
I also had tried running the program through my router but it alas could not find the modem. I noticed I had trouble telneting to my router after that(!), but I rebooted and it appears to run fine now, abiet slow for some reason in telnet mode. I hope the software did not try to mess up my router!
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Sedated3
Shooting Rubberbands At The Stars
Premium
join:2002-11-02
Brooklyn, NY
clubs:
| Re: Westell DGNIcon (Modem Browser) BTW I noticed that as well. Once the program is installed, even the modems that fail to be found work with it.
Strange indeed, I'm no guru, and I'm too tired to think straight. So suffice it to say I am glad it didn't screw up your router AGB
G'night!
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Sedated3
Shooting Rubberbands At The Stars
Premium
join:2002-11-02
Brooklyn, NY
clubs:
| Re: Westell DGNIcon (Modem Browser) I asked Gwion if it was alright to sticky the above two threads until we can a little co-operation going and get it all into the FAQ; as most of it post-dates the immediate VZ roll out.
Thanks Gwion! I hope this helps some people understand the changes. The GTE thread is very informative.
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93254336
Weapons Of Masturbation
Premium
join:2001-10-20 | Same thing here. The diagnostic program seems a bit temperamental, but it eventually finds the modem.
- Dan
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Alex G Bell
join:2002-07-02
Boston, MA | Nope! Rebooted the computer and now telnet runs fine on the router. | |
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misiek
join:2000-12-25
Round Lake, IL | Where can I get it?
TIA. | |
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93254336
Weapons Of Masturbation
Premium
join:2001-10-20
| Re: Westell DGNIcon (Modem Browser) said by misiek :
Where can I get it?
Check out this post from Sedated:
»Re: Westell Diagnostic Icon
- Dan
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misiek
join:2000-12-25
Round Lake, IL | Re: Westell DGNIcon (Modem Browser) Got it, thanks! | |
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Steimes
I make internets
Premium
join:2002-01-08
Belle Vernon, PA
·Verizon Online DSL
| I looked on google but found no result, is there a simmilar program for the C90? When a tech came to my house hew had a 'line tester' that seemed to do the same thing as this program, more or less. Is there a program that can emulate this tester for the c90?
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93254336
Weapons Of Masturbation
Premium
join:2001-10-20 | Re: Westell DGNIcon (Modem Browser) I've run the Westell diagnostic utility on a C90-36R516... worked perfectly.
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93254336
Weapons Of Masturbation
Premium
join:2001-10-20
| Re: Westell DGNIcon (Modem Browser) said by batterup :
I have the "Westell B90-36R515-01" I downloaded and installed the »mbrowser1.webhop.net/ . It will not work through a router and lacks some of the diagnostics ability of the newer Westell 2xxx modems.
Yeah, the Westell Diagnostic utility won't work through a router; the DSL modem must be directly connected to the PC.
- Dan
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misiek
join:2000-12-25
Round Lake, IL
| By looking at the stats, is there any way to tell what my max attainable sync rate is?
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93254336
Weapons Of Masturbation
Premium
join:2001-10-20
| Re: Westell DGNIcon (Modem Browser) said by misiek :
By looking at the stats, is there any way to tell what my max attainable sync rate is?
What type of ADSL service plan do you have, including what your line is provisioned for (in other words, the maximum speed that you're supposed to get according to your DSL provider)?
From those stats, it appears that you are synced at 384/128. Are you very far from the CO? Also, what model of Westell modem are you using?
- Dan
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Sedated3
Shooting Rubberbands At The Stars
Premium
join:2002-11-02
Brooklyn, NY
clubs:
| Re: Westell DGNIcon (Modem Browser) Hi,
I've the same questions as Dan with one quick comment regarding your downstream attenuation rate. It's rather high at 72.0dBm.
As the signal traverses copper, it tends to fade, especially true for signals at high frequencies and high bit rates. This of course places the well known distance limit on full rate ADSL.
Usually the amount of attenuation tends to be lower with 24 gauge (0.5 millimeter) wiring. 26 gauge wire (0.4 millimeters) doesn't have the same "reach".
Your modem's downstream noise margin (higher is better) is a bit on the low side as well, BUT, I have no trouble running at 12dB downstream noise margin with 1500/128.
A modem browser program won't replace an EWL however; but what sort of plan do you subscribe to with Ameritech?
BTW can you tell us about your Westell? I understand SBC ships a 2100 as well, slightly modified but with the NAT/Firewall interface intact. Am I right on this?
Cheers, hth
Sed
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TheHermit
Premium
join:2002-04-18
Chicopee, MA
clubs:
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93254336
Weapons Of Masturbation
Premium
join:2001-10-20
| Re: Westell DGNIcon (Modem Browser) Your modem is synced with the DSLAM at the maximum provisioning rate, so that's a good sign. By examining your downstream noise margin (low), your output power (high) and your attenuation (high), I'd say that your effective subscriber loop length is long (in other words, you are fairly distant from the central office).
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buzzmag
join:2000-04-23
Philadelphia, PA | I can't install it. Get a message telling me it doesn't support my B90-36R515 modem. Anyone else have this problem? | |
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buzzmag
join:2000-04-23
Philadelphia, PA |
Batterup
Version 2.11.15.0. downloaded a few days ago.
File: westell_51x_diagnostic.exe | |
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legendNYC
Premium
join:2003-06-04
Jamaica, NY
·Verizon Online DSL
| Thanks for all the great info! The Modem Browser works as promised (Westell B90-36R515-01), although it does not work when Zone Alarm is active. We had the 640/90 Bell Atlantic connection since June 2001, and it was pretty poor early on. On 5/27 I put the call in to Verizon for the upgrade, which arrived on 6/2. Nice!! | |
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Flamester
join:2002-04-07
Paterson, NJ
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rudder
join:2001-05-28
Augusta, ME | Re: Westell DGNIcon (Modem Browser) Try CTRL-ALT- F7 when the Administration page comes up and the others should pop into view. This works for my A90-210015-04 browser. Also, I don’t seem to capture any upstream stats either. | |
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mikepd
Discovery
Premium,MVM
join:2000-10-26
New Port Richey, FL
clubs: | Re: Westell DGNIcon (Modem Browser) That did it, thanks! FYI, I have full upstream stats.
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rudder
join:2001-05-28
Augusta, ME | Re: Westell DGNIcon (Modem Browser) Your welcome! When I get a chance this weekend I'm going to experiment more and see if I can solve my no show Upstream reading problem. | |
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jtudor
Xm 60's On 6 Freak
Premium,MVM
join:2002-12-07
Morganton, NC | I believe the stats available depends entirely on the model of the modem. On the 210015-04 the upstream is not available.
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join:2001-05-28
Augusta, ME | Re: Westell DGNIcon (Modem Browser) Thanks for the information and saving me from the aggravation of trying to fix something that wasn’t broken.
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tonyfer2
join:2002-08-14
Elizabeth, NJ
clubs: | Re: Westell DGNIcon (Modem Browser) i have a a99-211016-00 and it don't show my upstream is not available.can you tell me why ? thankyou anthony | |
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