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NYR11
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reply to arden625
Re: [W2K] Win2k Service Pack 4

said by arden625 See Profile:
Because there are tons of fixes! And Gates told you so!

I personally just like keeping up to date with these patches especially if it's an OS Service Pack.
Arden625, how is everything going with SP4? No problems? I have'nt installed SP4 yet. How is everything when playing games?
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HVM007

join:2001-03-15
San Jose, CA

reply to reiko2
No, I didn't try Speed Disk becuase of the message. Anyone has any ideas?

My Live update, Nav 02, said there is update for program but failed on a whole bunch of files on Norton Antivirus directory. I'm doubted if there is update for NAv 02 (current date I have is about Sep 02).

Before SP4, Turn on my DSL connection after windows (computer) on was no issue. Now turn on DSL connection a must be before computer is on, otherwise, ZA version 2.6 does not recognize my IP and my ISP's DNS and posted as attempted for FWROUTE. Could still accessible to internet though.


arden625

join:2001-07-10
Haledon, NJ

reply to NYR11
said by NYR11 See Profile:
Arden625, how is everything going with SP4? No problems? I have'nt installed SP4 yet. How is everything when playing games?
I don't think SP4 has any relations to gaming, if it does, I didn't notice anything different. Other than that, I like SP4 so far. I've installed it in the three PCs here in my house and everything's great. It's weird...but after every installation, that PC seemed to "run faster." Maybe it's just me, but either way...I'm not here to complain.
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RolfRFJ
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join:2003-06-18
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reply to Ace1
Re: Service Pack 4 Killed My Internet!

Well I had the same problem with my Internet(DSL going to dial-up speeds) and after reading the post about removing and reinstalling the Network Components I got mine working properly too.

Everything else seems fine with SP4. Still have my SP2 imaged on CD if I need it.
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nightfishing

join:2002-06-20
reply to HVM007
Re: [W2K] Win2k Service Pack 4

Anyone have a workaround for the Speed Disk issue?


Rungel
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reply to Skipdawg
SP4 has been running on my win2k pro machine ok. But just noticed files in my Recycle bin are not showing up when I delete them. Anyone else experiencing this? I was having a printer problem. I think it fixed that.

It's working now for some reason.
[text was edited by author 2003-06-28 21:01:54]

[text was edited by author 2003-06-28 21:03:08]


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reply to HVM007
said by HVM007 See Profile:
No, I didn't try Speed Disk becuase of the message. Anyone has any ideas?

My Live update, Nav 02, said there is update for program but failed on a whole bunch of files on Norton Antivirus directory. I'm doubted if there is update for NAv 02 (current date I have is about Sep 02).

Before SP4, Turn on my DSL connection after windows (computer) on was no issue. Now turn on DSL connection a must be before computer is on, otherwise, ZA version 2.6 does not recognize my IP and my ISP's DNS and posted as attempted for FWROUTE. Could still accessible to internet though.
reiko2 See Profile resolved his conflicts with LiveUpdate in this Security Forum thread.
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mjf
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Updated my W2K Pro laptop today with no problems. Recycle bin works ok.

Try this9
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join:2002-05-05
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 reply to MSeng
I just read the security forum thread. Good find, MSeng! The beta testers for SP4, in general, would have *all* the services enabled at their MS defaults during testing. If any services have been altered from the out-of-the-box defaults then all bets are off on how SP4 will behave.

If a person has manually tweaked their services (ie BlackViper page), they should first set all the services back to the MS defaults before installing SP4. Then go back and mess with them after the install. Save some grief right up front.


Maven
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join:2002-03-12
Canada
reply to Skipdawg
Yet another reason why slip-streaming is the way to go. If you have a burner, I strongly suggest you slip-stream rather than update after installation. I never had any problem with any service pack as a result.


EmilioG
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join:2000-09-19
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reply to Skipdawg
I agree. i always delete partition & format then slipstream when a new SP comes out. I'm just waiting for my SP4 CD from Microsoft. I've installed SP4 to my current install with no problems so far.


arden625

join:2001-07-10
Haledon, NJ
Excuse the noobish question...but what is "slip-streaming?"


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said by arden625 See Profile:
Excuse the noobish question...but what is "slip-streaming?"
Slipstreaming is the process of Integrating a Service Pack into the install so that the Operation System and the Service Pack are installed at the same time. Microsoft does this with their operating systems and other software such as Office. With the know-how and right materials the end-user can do this also.
[text was edited by author 2003-06-29 02:21:38]


arden625

join:2001-07-10
Haledon, NJ

Ooooohhh, that's pretty cool! Although I've been just updating to newer SP's as they come, I haven't had a problem whatsoever (even with my tweaked Services).

So how do I go about "slipstreaming?" Copy Win2K CD, extract SP4 and overwrite same files in that CD and burn it? I don't want to hijack the thread and go off the topic so a PM would be nice.
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Marilla
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said by arden625 See Profile:
So how do I go about "slipstreaming?" Copy Win2K CD, extract SP4 and overwrite same files in that CD and burn it? I don't want to hijack the thread and go off the topic so a PM would be nice.
Actually, a public post would be nice, too... even if not in this thread. hehe... I've always just installed from CD and immediately updated from there... I'd definitely be interested in knowing if there are any 'tricks' I'd need to know to 'slipstream' a service pack onto a CD for new installs.


Telly Boot
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reply to reiko2
said by reiko2 See Profile:
While I see programs like IE Spell and some firewall settings were affected- I fear you are right re: Live update. Noticed when went to run Speed Disk- got a message, 'SP4 has not been tested using Speed Disk- not recommended'- or something close to that- so appears NSW 2003 just wasn't ready for SP4. Thanks for that link anyway- reiko2
Yep, I see the same Speed Disk warning. However my NSW 2003 LiveUpdate seems to be working just fine ( Auto updated on the 28th) Ironically I have just recently started using Speed Disk again as mine was killed by a Norton update some years ago, and I couldn't be bothered re-installing NSW to fix it. I guess I will go back to the Win2K Defrag program for a while, as it works fine for me. I expect that the SD warning is just a caution ?? er, tempted... but I won't be testing it out for fun.
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reiko2
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join:2001-05-16
Cleveland, OH

reply to Skipdawg
Just saw some of the posts on SpeedDisk- Symantec sent me an e-mail- 2 in one day and on a Saturday!- saying they always update components thru Live Update when a new service pack comes out. If I still saw the warning- and I did- to go ahead and ignore it. I Drive Imaged everything and then tried it- seemed to work as well as usual. I haven't tried every program yet- so just letting you know. Hope that helps- thanks again for all the help today- reiko2


Telly Boot
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reply to Skipdawg
Thanks for the update, Reiko2: I noticed that there was a small Symantec 'Common Client' Liveupdate on Thursday (26th) and that might have been it (??). I thought I would wait a week or two to see if it was actually a problem.
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[text was edited by author 2003-06-29 05:15:24]


reaver221

join:2003-05-08
Cincinnati, OH

reply to Marilla
said by Marilla See Profile:
said by arden625 See Profile:
So how do I go about "slipstreaming?" Copy Win2K CD, extract SP4 and overwrite same files in that CD and burn it? I don't want to hijack the thread and go off the topic so a PM would be nice.
Actually, a public post would be nice, too... even if not in this thread. hehe... I've always just installed from CD and immediately updated from there... I'd definitely be interested in knowing if there are any 'tricks' I'd need to know to 'slipstream' a service pack onto a CD for new installs.
This page has pretty good instructions on how to do it:

»bink.nu/bootcd/

rmbags

join:2001-12-31
East York, ON

Did a fresh (clean) install from a slipstreamed cd on a test box. I then noticed that there was no Micro$oft Java VM installed. Anybody else notice this.

P.S.
Solved but however due to site policies I can't post any links to download the installer for MS Java VM.

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