norris
@mesanetworks.net
| reply to Logan 5
Re: [W2K] Win2k Service Pack 4
Actually, I was a member here for over 3 years (cwnorris).
I never said anything about people being noobs, people that know what they are doing can also have differing opinions on patch management, among other things.
I guess my view is that, if I applied a patch (service packs just being a collection of patches), and it broke something that affected the use of network services for the people that use our network, I would have some explaining to do. And my answer better include, "that didn't happen when I tested it". Not to mention the work I would have to do to fix it. I suppose that is different than applying it to one machine, which a lot of people don't rely on for services.
Perhaps my view of this is tainted by my experience with service packs on NT4, where a few of them were utter crap, and caused many problems (especially when applied by someone who didn't research their ramifications, such as replacing vendor supplied device drivers). Better safe than sorry.
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Morbid Angel
Bitten By The Wolf
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join:2002-12-12
Bethpage, NY
|  reply to Skipdawg
I just did the SP4 update on my 2000 PRO machine, so far all seems good. I have noticed one silly thing already that it fixed, I have an HP with the multimedia keyboard (which sux) the only thing that I like that works on the keyboard is the volume knob. SP3 stopped it from working, SP4 fixed it, works fine now. I will have to mess around with the PC and see what else I notice that is different. Something as silly as the volume knob working makes me happy.
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jdong
Eat A Beaver, Save A Tree.
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clubs:   | reply to norris
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Yep, you were cwnorris. |
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MSeng
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| reply to norris
Re: It's officially out now!
said by norris:
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OK, the obvious question is, is there any difference between this official release, and the one that was posted yesterday at the beginning of this thread.
I just installed the one from the link posted yesterday, and would hate to do it all over again with the official release posted today if it's the same thing.
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IMO, anybody who would install a patch or service pack from a link provided by some third-party website, with no page from MS stating that the link is the final release, and legitimate, is asking for trouble. Much less the idea of installing a service pack on production machines without any testing.
I see you installed it on DCs and Exchange servers..Scary, and not really a good practice.
I really don't understand everyone's need to have the latest service pack installed, with no research and no testing done, before it's even officially released.
FWIW, we always seem to find the final releases on the Microsoft site a day or two earlier than the official appearance. The same discussion came up when XP SP1 came out. For those who might be worrying -- don't.
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Skipdawg
The Original
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steven506
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join:2003-06-11
Frankfort, KY
| reply to Bach
Re: [W2K] Win2k Service Pack 4
said by Bach  :
Looks like Q329170 will be part of SP4. That one causes shutdown problems for 3 of 4 workstations. I'll pass for now.
Yep this update causes some systems to hang from my experience. Perhaps they fixed this issue with SP4? I'll wait and see. |
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nightfishing
join:2002-06-20 | reply to Skipdawg
Re: It's officially out now!
I was one of the lucky ones that had the problems with Q329170, but I have been on sp4 for two days and several reboots without a hitch. |
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EmilioG
Whats This?
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join:2000-09-19
New York, NY
|  reply to Skipdawg
Re: [W2K] Win2k Service Pack 4
It's official! Microsoft took down all download links from the site.
Release Notes for SP4>> »support.microsoft.com/?kbid=813432
ReadMe>>> »www.microsoft.com/windows2000/do···MeSP.htm
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Sparrow
Crystal Sky
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join:2002-12-03
Sachakhand
|  reply to Skipdawg
Having a bit of a problem here, and since everyone else is running this smoothly, it has to be me...
I saved SP4 to the D drive, and attempted installation from there. Is this a problem or am I missing something here? (I'm sure I am!)
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acehyde
Tired.
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clubs: | Hate to ask the obvious, but are you using Windows 2000 (sure does look like a Windows XP error window). |
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acehyde
Tired.
Premium
join:2001-08-14
clubs: | reply to norris
cwnorris , since you are hanging around the site still, why not come out of retirement and have your account re-activated? |
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jdong
Eat A Beaver, Save A Tree.
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Rochester, MI
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said by Sparrow :
Having a bit of a problem here, and since everyone else is running this smoothly, it has to be me...
I saved SP4 to the D drive, and attempted installation from there. Is this a problem or am I missing something here? (I'm sure I am!)
Umm, are you trying to install SP4 on your XP system? Won't work. Only for Windows 2000.
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jdong
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said by acehyde :
cwnorris , since you are hanging around the site still, why not come out of retirement and have your account re-activated?
Yes, please. You look like a lot of help here... Saw a few of your posts in the MS forum.
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MSeng
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| said by jdong :
said by acehyde :
cwnorris , since you are hanging around the site still, why not come out of retirement and have your account re-activated?
Yes, please. You look like a lot of help here... Saw a few of your posts in the MS forum.
Can we please stay on topic?
Thanks in advance.
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Sparrow
Crystal Sky
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Sachakhand
| reply to jdong
said by jdong :
Umm, are you trying to install SP4 on your XP system? Won't work. Only for Windows 2000.
Nothing like being well known for foolishness!
Thank you! Of course I was!
I do love this place!
EDIT: Just for the record, I actually spent nearly three hours reading all the Readme files, etc... at MS, and read every post carefully in this thread! At least I saved it to the D drive  !
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Morbid Angel
Bitten By The Wolf
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join:2002-12-12
Bethpage, NY | hehe, leave it to u Crystal, silly one u are |
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jdong
Eat A Beaver, Save A Tree.
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Rochester, MI
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I have a feeling MSeng is getting ticked off... Back on topic everyone!
After it working perfectly on my VM, I decided to install SP4 on my mom's laptop. Perfect, no problems...
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urbman
Phasers Locked On Target
join:1999-06-25
Niagara Falls, NY
| reply to slash
I like to test out new stuff. I have installed it 3 times so far. One clean install, one upgraded from SP3 on a Citrix Server and once on a RRAS server, no problems to report thus far. I am holding off for a little be before the domain controllers.
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NeO_JAW
Arsenal Are No1
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join:2002-01-24
Surrey, UK
clubs: | reply to Skipdawg
Have you guys read the news I posted, Some users may need another patch.. Take a look..
DSLReports News
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Pinan
Hypnotic Tweaker
ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-09-02
Murrieta, CA
| reply to Skipdawg
Re: It's officially out now!
Thanks Skip. Been waiting for this.
Adding later:
Looks good, no problems, yet. Lowered Services.exe usage by about 1000 too.:)
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