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[OC] P3 versus Celeron

Here is the exact chip that is in the new motherboard I just received for free. »processorfinder.intel.com/script···rSpd=ALL

Now compared to a P3 overclocked to run at 664 with FSB of 133mhz. Would I in fact see an increase in speed that would be worthwhile? The board is using Award bios. I think it might be a CN810 motherboard. Still looking to find out more info.

Here is some info on the system

»www-3.ibm.com/pc/support/site.ws···=912240e

But I'm still unable to find specifics. The PLL chip is an IC Works W195Bh so I could overclock it using front side bus tweaking software. But since I shouldn't be locked out of the bios on the new board I should able to overclock using the actual bios this time around. And yes I'm aware this is way old technology - oh well I still want to play with it. But still am wondering if it would out perform my current setup. Also needing motherboard info to see if it would support my current CPU or how much of a faster CPU the board will support.
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Ok the board is a MS-6137(MS-6137).

»www.msicomputer.com/support/bios_result.asp

Still wanting thoughts on if the 1 gig Celeron overclocked would outperform a P3 overclocked to 664. The cache for the P3 is 256 the cache for the Celeron is 128 - my thoughts are this is going to make a big difference in performance. My thought is my current chip may be equal to that of the new chip ( even with overclock ) do to the new chip having a lower cache. Now maybe my newbie status is showing big time with that thought. But it seems somewhat logical to me.
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reply to IGGY
Unless you're running applications needing heavy number crunching or large data processing (or both, like graphics/video processing, heavy-duty 3D games, or distributed scientific app's) the faster Celeron will probably outpace your current P3 by 25% or more. There's caveats to that, though, because that's just CPU to CPU and doesn't include how the different motherboards, chipsets, and memory might affect the comparison. (Can't know that for sure unless they're run side-by-side to find out.)

If you're getting it for free (and know it's in working condition), I certainly wouldn't tell you to turn it down. If you started collecting a few components here and there as sales come and go and opportunity presents, you'd be able build up a second system to use at a budget price.

reply to IGGY
IMO the Celeron will definitely outperform the P3 at the clock speeds you mention. However, you may not be able to tell the different just in normal everyday use; it's going to depend on what you're doing with the system. If you use the machine for crunching on a distributed computing project for example, the Celeron at 1-GHz should definitely be an improvement.
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reply to IGGY
That looks good so far. Nice to see you've got it up and running well.

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said by IGGY:

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Don't think I'll have any luck getting this one up to 133 on the front side bus. Only at a weak 117 on the front side at the moment - up from 100mhz.

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Using PC133 from Crucial. Micron Tech. 16LSDT3264AG-133E1 - 256 stick. On the old board ( the "tweaked" Dell ) I had a mix of PC133 and PC100 originally. But when I overclocked it ( the Dell when I moved it to a new case ) I took out the PC100 stick. I'll be adding a video card to this new setup soon ( reconditioned Geforce 2 PCI = GeForce2 MX200 32MB PCI Video Card ) - not top of line by any means - but need to get away from the onboard video. According to the motherboard manual the board version 2.0 ( the one I have is version 2.1 ) only supports 66 and 100 mhz of the front side bus. When I upped it to 133 this AM the machine wasn't happy with it. But this was before I realized this board needed a jumper removed before starting to overclock. The Dell board didn't need this. So I'll give 133 a try again. It's running stable at 117 - the next jump up is 133 from what I see in the bios. For the record versions 3.0 and 5.0 of this board are the only ones that state support for 133 on the FSB. The full current specs can be found here »www.iggyz.com/files/pcwithnewcel···pecz.txt
Hopefully we'll be able to add 2 more fans and another stick of 256 from Crucial in the next few months. The manuals for this board can be found here »www.msi.com.tw/program/support/m···?UID=255
The bios clearing jumper is in a really pain in the backside spot. On the Dell board it was much easier to access. On this new board the reset jumper is right by the PCI slots - as is the battery of course. But this makes it a pain if I need to reset the bios do to something flaking out do to tweaking.
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reply to IGGY
I just want to ask you a question,

I have also an old MS-6137 board with an Ce 600 running 66MHz x 9 on it. This is old and being served as the second machine in my home. I have tried to tweaked it but could not find any hinds on increasing FSB to 100MHz. Could you tell me how to do it on this board.

Thanks very much

Phuong ldp@gmx.net